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yeun jacques · Jun 15, 2008, 09:36 PM

I have read over some previous questions but don't really understand. I have a bathtub faucet which seems to be dripping. I removed the faucet only the reveal a copper line. The water seems to be coming out of the copper line and dripping out the faucet which I assume is to issues. The first being the seal in the faucet and the second being something obviously hidden from plain view. Sorry for my lack of terminology.

After shutting the water main off I'm really not sure what there is I can do to access behind the ceramic tiles.

Help! :)

westnlas · Jun 15, 2008, 10:12 PM

I am not exactly certain of where the leak is occurring. Out the filler spour, or one of the valve handles. Is there a single handle or two ? In any case, the handle must be removed to expose the valve stem and body. There will be a flat area on each side of the valve body for a wrench. Use the proper sized wrench and unscrew the valve body. Replace the rubber "O" rings or washers, clean the area inside where the rubber seats and reinstall it. Unscrew is counter-clock wise.

Flying Blue Eagle · Jun 15, 2008, 10:46 PM

Yen Jacques - Westnlas, gave you a prety good answer, and is right to a certain extent. The answer to this is and concerns, The name brand of the faucet, the type - single handle or two handle, Is this faucet a new one or a old one, What is the brand name on it. . :: YEN check these things out and then get back with us on this post again
Have a good day & GOD BLESS ::: F.B.E.

yeun jacques · Jun 16, 2008, 08:45 AM

The brand name is Delta. It's a single handle. About 7 years old.

Thanks for your help.

massplumber2008 · Jun 16, 2008, 09:07 AM

One of these valves should look like or be very similar to your shower valve. My bet is on the one on the left.

First, you need to shut the water supply... Then remove that face plate and handle (may need an allen wrench or screwdriver). Next step will be to twist off the chrome cover dome (under #1 at both pics. Below) and then begin to disassemble the parts in the order presented below.

After removing the seats and springs (#2 on left, #4 on right) you will then need to have a friend PULSE the water on/off for a second to both hot and cold to clear the valve of any sediment/debris (cover valve with a cloth).

Then, most likely will want to replace the seats and springs--repair part#RP4993 for both valves--available at all home supply stores.

Replace the seats and springs and then try reassembling the unit and test it all out!

You should be all set from there. Let me know if you aren't.

PS: On pic . At left you will see a temperature limiting stop/device (under the circled #1)... if this is your valve, be sure it goes back same as you removed it or will be messing with the temperature setting.

The seats and springs look like the 3rd picture below (at bottom right)... so don't go removing any of the Orings from where they belong. Remove the seats and springs!

Let us know how you make out... MARK

westnlas · Jun 16, 2008, 02:16 PM

Once the valve assembly is out, why shouldn't the O rings be replaced at the same time ? I understand that the valve seat and spring assemblies are the points of wear but I have had old O rings not reseal after removal. I believe they lose elasticity over time. The O rings are very inexpensive and very easily replaced.

massplumber2008 · Jun 16, 2008, 02:59 PM

Westnlas:

Simply not a common practice to replace the Orings or any other parts when have a simple drip... especially with valve only 7 years old.

Never hurts to add a little silicone grease or plumber's grease to any Orings... FOR SURE... ;) , but in this case, if just getting to seats and springs most of the Orings are in back of them and should not need to be disturbed.

Springs and seats should fix it here!

Good day...

Mark

Flying Blue Eagle · Jun 16, 2008, 11:21 PM

Mark - very good answer, You must have read my mind .( yen Jacques ) Follow the instructions as Mark has given them and you should have no trouble. I agree what he told you about the " O " rings, NOTE - If you look up at the very top left corner, you will see " FILE " push on it ,and a card will appear and on it you will see " PRINT" hit PRINT and another card will appear ( YOUR REG CARD FOR YOUR PRINTER - Hit PRINT AGAIN AND YOU WILL PRINT A COPY OF WHAT MARK WROTE YOU < HAVE HIS POST ShoWing before hitting print. :: Let us all know how you come out, :: Good LUCK and GOD BLESS :: F.B.E.

yeun jacques · Jun 17, 2008, 08:48 AM

Hey,

So I think I dug myself in a bit deeper. I accidentally dropped number 3 which looks like some sort of temperature setting mechanism. After dropping it I found it and put it on the side and thought I could figure out once I was finished. Well I got as far as #5 or #6 sticking out. I can't tell by looking at the picture. It's a 2 inch shaft sticking out of the valve system. In the center is a hole in which I assume I can stick an allan key in to free it loose and expose #4. Only thing is I couldn't find an allan key small enough. Is it even an allan key that I use there? Does anyone know the size?

Anyway I got discouraged put it back together only to have the hot cold and the cold hot. What a newb eh!

massplumber2008 · Jun 17, 2008, 09:52 AM

You are referring to the picture on the right... yes?

I think you put in #3 upside down... or maybe the ball assembly? ;)

Did you remove the ball assembly?? If so... seats and springs are right under that..?

The hole in the stem should accept the screw that hold sthe handle on..?

And this whole thing should just pop out (pull forward) after removing #1 and #3..?

And don't feel bad... even experienced plumbers screw this up sometimes!

Le me know how it goes..?

yeun jacques · Jun 17, 2008, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by massplumber2008

You are referring to the picture on the right...yes??

the pictures show up top and bottom on my computer screen and I am refering to the bottom. (the only one with number 4 5 and 6)

I think you put in #3 upside down...or maybe the ball assembly?? ;)

havent got to the ball assembly yet.

Did you remove the ball assembly??? If so...seats and springs are right under that...???

i've got to the point where theres a shaft like metal 3 inch long cylinder sticking out. Theres a hole in the centre of it. It appears to have a allen key screw in it but I'm really not sure b/c I can find a key small enough to fit it.

The hole in the stem should accept the screw that hold sthe handle on..???

no the hole is a lot smaller.

And this whole thing should just pop out (pull forward) after removing #1 and #3...??

Does this pop out or do I need to unscrfw a screw in the centre of that hole?

...

yeun jacques · Jun 17, 2008, 01:41 PM

Massplumber I appreciate your help but the diagrams you have listed don't pertain to my faucet. The type of faucet I have is called a "monitor" and the lady at delta found that out by asking me how I turn the single handle. Instructions

yeun jacques · Jun 17, 2008, 01:49 PM

I need to know how to remove item A.

Edit: turn cap assembly counterclockwise 90 degrees.

I think I have all the ammo I need my friends.

massplumber2008 · Jun 17, 2008, 02:32 PM

My picture is a picture of the delta monitor shower valve... the one on the left..?

You all set yeun..