how best to sweat angle stop with extension?

jjustinia · Jul 25, 2009, 08:41 PM

I wanted to get advice on how to cleanly solder the Brasscraft - Supply Valves CS40B C1 Angle Valve (see pic). I see they slip over the 1/2 inch stub i have but how much overlap should i have for sweating and if it is too long do i cut the chrome covered ext tube? i wanted some expertise on how to get the best looking results before i try and mess it up. I wanted some hints on how to not burn the wall when i sweat and get it all to be coverd by the eschuchen. if someone can impart their wisdom on these matters i would be greatful.

Thank you

jjustinia · Jul 26, 2009, 04:23 PM

very helpful, now i have a plan. i will probably go with compression as i bet the shark bite are a bit expensive, as is the removal tool. i will get the flat escutcheon aS kiss suggested and all should be fine. everyone is comfortable that they wont leak or be pushed off by the water pressure, i assume or you would not have recommended.

jjustinia · Jul 26, 2009, 04:27 PM

excellent! thank you for the quality advice

KeepItSimpleStupid · Jul 26, 2009, 04:37 PM

Another hint:

You can sleave the pipe in the wall with PVC. This method works a lot better to be able to seal and/or firestop the pipes through the wall.

Conventional drywall patching to he PVC and then a firestop from the PVC and copper. The copper can protrude slightly to give to an edge to patch to.

KeepItSimpleStupid · Jul 26, 2009, 04:45 PM

The drawback of the flat estucheon is that it rquires 2 screws to secure it. This might be an issue with ceramic tile.

Mark:

Do you know of a quality supplier of chrome plated estucheons?

speedball1 · Jul 27, 2009, 04:44 AM

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You cannot cut the chrome piece. The estucheuns turn into mush in a few years You can sleave the pipe in the wall with PVC. This method works a lot better to be able to seal and/or firestop the pipes through the wall. Conventional drywall patching to he PVC and then a firestop from the PVC and copper. The copper can protrude slightly to give to an edge to patch to. The drawback of the flat estucheon is that it rquires 2 screws to secure it.

Kiss, I can understand why the Asker had difficulty in following you. I'm having the same problem myself.
1) why can't the chrome tube be cut back?
2) What climate are you in that will turn chrome estucheouns to mush? Ours are still shiny after years and years. So if the chrome escutcheons turn to mush in your area whadda ya use to cover the holes in the wall the stub outs come outta?? and what's with this? "The drawback of the flat estucheon is that it rquires 2 screws to secure it." SAY WHAT?? Notice the little teeth in the opening. Their there for a reason. They grip the copper stub out and hold it against the wall.
For a bit more insurance you can dab some adhesive Dap on the back of the plate.
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You can sleave the pipe in the wall with PVC. This method works a lot better to be able to seal and/or firestop the pipes through the wall

Here ya lost me completly. Is this some kind of nutty local code that considers all stubouts to be a fire hazard? Not meaning to rain on your parade but perhaps I'm just dense because it's so early but I'm really trying to comprehend your answers. Regards, Tom

hkstroud · Jul 27, 2009, 06:34 AM

Just a note for jjustina.

In Home Depot yesterday, saw they had the Brasscraft slip on ,1/4 turn stop valves for about $8. Their version of Sharkbite, don't need the tool to remove.

jlisenbe · Jul 27, 2009, 10:05 AM

Guys, am I correct in thinking that a practice to avoid with compression fittings is OVER tightening?