Hello

Thanks for all the help with the shower rough in. I have a few more plumibing questions though. I'm roughing in my urinal and wanted to know if it needs a pee trap? Also is it ok to have two sanitary tee right on top of each other? The the directions for the sink and urinal both want them roughed in at 17"-18". And finally my toilet rough in is about 11" from the finished wall. Is that fine? How to do you attach the ring to the concrete?

Thanks Again.

KOHLER: K-5016-ET: Dexter™ elongated urinal: Urinals: Fixtures: Bathroom

letmetellu

[quote=speedball1]I agree with one exception. You don't attempt to snake a drain line by going in through the trap. That simply clears the lateral. To clear the drain line you go down the vent. Besides, any plumber on the job for more then two weeks knows enough not to snake back to back fixtures through the trap.

I can return the favor and say that any plumber on the job for more than two weeks knows enough that you can not get to the drain line when the vent pipe has been re-vented back into the main vent. It is also hard to clean a lateral line from two fixtures that are back to back on an arm that come off the main vent. Plus multi-story buildings sometimes are hard to get down the vents, or if the vents have been off-set to the back of the roof line to get rid of the ugly vents sticking through the roof.

speedball1

Let's look at em one atta time.
1) And if he's been on the job longer then two weeks he'll take his machine up to the attic, locate the correct vent, cut the pipe and snake The line. After he would repair the cut with a shielded coupling.
BINGO!! CORRECTAMUNDO!! But we don't get into that situation. We don't use a cross if the fixtures have to run to the stack through a lateral. We use a double tee to pickup the arms. That way each lateral can be snaked. Don't you guys put them in the same way? Opps! Just remembered, you guys install stacked tees.
Regards and have a great week end, Tom

letmetellu

Tom maybe you need to know that not only do I have a contracting business I also have a repair business so I not only do work on the plumbing jobs that I install but I run into all kind of jobs, even a few of the DIY's that can be anything, and the reason for that is that Texas has a lot rural area that did not fall under any plumbing codes except for the sewage disposal, up till the last few years.
Also I was partly responsible for getting the use of twin ells, on the end of a lateral line between back to back lavatories, baned.

Tom I am only telling you this because I would like for you to understand that what I comment on on this site is not necessarily the way I do it, most of the time I am just giving another idea of the way things can be done.

speedball1

Gee growler! Thanks for the reddy! Where did I go wrong? Letmetellu told me that snaking a revent was impossible, and I simply told him how it was done. So you back the hell off and stay outta it!!! If you're gunning for me then let's go back to the old air-gap argument where you do, indeed claim that your way is better. OH yeah I forgot!! The askers complaints about counter top air gaps shot that claim all to pices.

speedball1

OK! I'm inpressed.
Not quite so! You were telling me that a operation that I had been doing for years was impossible to do. and I told you how it was done. No slam on you. Simply being helpful.
Now I'm really impressed! Would you care to enlighten me as to the reason?
what's wrong with twin tees? I think they're kinda cute. When you look at them from the front they look like they're staring back at you.
A few posts back when you had a comment about me I asked you if you had a problem with me. Now might be a mighty good time for you to answer that question.
And while I've never owned my own business I've supervised some mighty big prejects involving five or six trucks of plumbers and helpers. Like I've stated, I've paid my dues. And know this, If anyone , and that includes experts, makes a false or misleading statement on the Plumbing Page they can expect to be corrected and if the information's dangerous they can expect to get deleted.
Letmetellu, I don't wish to hassle with you, it takes time away from answering questions, so if you just tell me what's eating you in a PM instead of out here in public, perhaps we can work it out. But let's get back to answering questions shall we?
Regards, Tom