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mikeyb · Aug 18, 2006, 12:32 PM

I am remodeling the bathroom and want to put a new flange on the toilet. The old one is cast iron with oakum? And lead connection to the closet bend. I would like to change to ABS but all the fittings (closet bends) that I find at the retail stores are too deep (>8 in to bottom) and put me below the existing pipe (>6 in). I can match up to the existing line with a regular 90 but I don't know if that goes against code. Is a closet bend necessary for a toilet waste line? I also saw a flange with a 45 already molded on--can I do to 45's to make the turn for the toilet waste?

Thanks much.

speedball1 · Aug 18, 2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by mikeyb

I am remodeling the bathroom and want to put a new flange on the toilet. The old one is cast iron with oakum? and lead connection to the closet bend. I would like to change to ABS but all the fittings (closet bends) that I find at the retail stores are too deep (>8 in to bottom) and put me below the existing pipe (>6 in). I can match up to the existing line with a regular 90 but I don't know if that goes against code. Is a closet bend necessary for a toilet waste line? I also saw a flange with a 45 already molded on--can I do to 45's to make the turn for the toilet waste?

Thanks much.

Hey Mikey,
I don't really understand your problem. How it works is that you install the closet bend, prime and glue a closet flange and then trim off the excess that sticks above the floor line.
You may use a quarter bend if you wish but closet bends are made for installing toilets. Am I missing something here? Regards, tom

mikeyb · Aug 18, 2006, 03:17 PM

Thanks for the answer and sorry I didn't explain the problem sufficiently.

From your explanation it sounds like the closet bend would go all the way through the flange but most flanges that I've seen have a stop on them near the lip so the vertical part of the closet bend won't go through the flange and above the floor line.

Also the closet bend itself that I saw also had a stop point or a line that shows where the joint should stop and writing below that line so I didn't think I could get the flange to slip over the stop point and the raised writing.

speedball1 · Aug 19, 2006, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by mikeyb

Thanks for the answer and sorry I didn't explain the problem sufficiently.

From your explanation it sounds like the closet bend would go all the way through the flange but most flanges that I've seen have a stop on them near the lip so the vertical part of the closet bend won't go through the flange and above the floor line.

Also the closet bend itself that I saw also had a stop point or a line that shows where the joint should stop and writing below that line so I didn't think I could get the flange to slip over the stop point and the raised writing.

I've been retired for some years now so this is new to me. I have put up images of typical closet bends and flanges. No stops on these. Why a manufacture would put a hardship on the installer by limiting his actions I don't know. Could you furnish the brand name of the companys that have these on the market? I would sure like to research the product and learn why they just made it ten times harder to rough a toilet in. Thanks, Tom