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Old Jan 30, 2006, 05:57 PM
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Why is slavery wrong?

Of course I know that slavery is wrong. This is a strictly an exercise in philosophical reasoning. It is easy to say the right things but it is far more important to understand why. So the question is; Why shouldn't I be able to own another human being?


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magprob agrees: Your right, as a matter of a fact, I'll sell ya my ex-wife...cheap! But, forget about the sex slave part!
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Old Jan 30, 2006, 06:23 PM   #2  
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In short: the human will is not to be owned by anyone... not even God, if that is your belief.

On the other hand, if one were to willingly give up thier right to free will and become anothers slave, I see no wrong in the matter.
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Of course I know that slavery is wrong. This is a strictly an exercise in philosophical reasoning. It is easy to say the right things but it is far more important to understand why. So the question is; Why shouldn't I be able to own another human being?
How would you like if another human being owned you and had you chained in shackles? The slaves were treated like animals instead of humans, they worked in mines or on plantations and were beaten or punished. Thank goodness Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery, he saw that slavery was morally wrong and spoke out against it, which started the Civil War. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

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Old Jan 30, 2006, 06:34 PM   #4  
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Is it possible that legalized, volunteer slavery is currently in practice?

Are we not already corporate slaves, and our employer the slavemaster?

Do we not stand at the doorstep of big business and beg to be put to work?

Do we not complain and make snide remarks when our boss is strict and demanding?

I suppose it does not count since I receive a paycheck.


Are we not slaves to our children or perhaps our parents?

Slaves to the desire to achieve, become wealthy, or famous?

Of course, the idea of slavery has earned quite the negative rep over the years. But then how could it not with all of the bad treatment that the slaves received?

Which of us would want to sit on the shelf at "Slaves -R- Us"?

Here in the land of the free, owning a slave would be to take away the freedom of another.

We are simply not for sale.

Really, I am no philosopher, but something inside me says that it is just not right.

Food for thought.

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jduke44 agrees: very good point. We are all slaves to something
valinors_sorrow agrees: If the slave consents to it, can it really be slavery?
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Old Jan 30, 2006, 06:54 PM   #5  
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(WARNING: Although I mean NO OFFENSE by this post, some may take it that way... if you are sensitive in a way that true historical events may offend you, then you may want to skip to the next post)

Slavery is nothing more than being owned by another. We can look at history and say that slaves were abused and all that... but in the same context, we could say "being a Jew is wrong cuz look at the way the Jews were treated."

That doesnt make being a Jew wrong and that doesnt make being a slave wrong.

How does one come to "own" someone else?

Improper purchase of one human being may impose a moral issue but if one has nothing and allows himself to be purchased by another, does it make it wrong?

We own cats and dogs and we dont feed them poorly, abuse them, or make them do terrible things.

True that some people do, in fact, do this to cats and dogs... but simply because SOME do, are we going to now say that owning a cat or dog is also wrong??
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It honestly does not make economic sense. In slavery a owner must first either buy or raise the slave. In that there will be a cost to get a productive worker.

You will have to have a labor job that is very labor intensive

As an owner you must feed, house, clothe and provide even if limited for the medical needs. If the slave is sick, hurt and can not work, you lose value and may not be able to sell the slave.

In an free economic society, you do not have any investment besides training. You do not have to worry or even care about the workers housing, food, medical needs and clothing besides that of the need at work. In a free society you may get rid of any worker who is too old, to sick or unable to preform the needed duties.

In a free society you may lower the number of workers without any loss of value of the workers and improve using techonogy for improvements.

The overall work to dollar spent, when spent at mim wage in the US and in third world nations or sweat shops in america, is much lower to product produced than it would be over a period of years using slave labor.

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DrJizzle agrees: Excellent points on the feesibility of it!
augustknight agrees: Interesting point. If we use slavery in America as an example Fr_Chuck's hypothesis suggests that slavery would have collapsed because of ecomonic unfeasibility.
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No one may own another person because we are equals.
That is the fundamental reason why slavery is wrong. It is a 'law' of humanity. We are all well aware of unequality in everyday life. And that is not necessarily immoral. If someone honestly earns riches, he than is entitled to his bounty. Some people are more intelligent than others and thereby may succeed in securing a better position in life. So in some sense we are not equal in all things.
What is undistillable is that we are all worth the same as humans. We are given life from outside of ourselves. It is not a commodity that can be bought or sold. As such no man can trade in human lives. To do so is immoral.
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Of course I know that slavery is wrong. This is a strictly an exercise in philosophical reasoning. It is easy to say the right things but it is far more important to understand why. So the question is; Why shouldn't I be able to own another human being?



Because ownership violates a human right.

As you already probably know, human rights are based on the human condition which is:

1. Ability to reason.
2. Capacity to suffer both mentally and physically and to die.
3. The need for socialization in order to increase survival probabilities.

Each of these conditions places upon us a moral duty. Each of these duties has to be weighed against the other duties and a decision reached as to which will receive priority under any given circumstance. These duties are:

1. To respect a human's right to decide for himself what he will if within the bounds of decency. This in turn generates other duties: to respect the person's right to know the truth so as to make an informed decision, if such knowledge is deserved.

2, To refrain from causing unnecessary physical or mental suffering and to alleviate such suffering when it is within our power to do so.

3. To cooperate with others in order to create a social environment. Not to be a disruptive force within a just society.
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Old May 13, 2006, 09:07 AM   #9  
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Ok then given that... what would you say about using sentanced felons as slaves? People who have already lost their right to these freedoms? If someone is sentanced to life, rather than sitting in a cell, could they be sold off to a slave farm?
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DrJizzle, why, yes, I want a killer as my personal slave. Wait...give me two rapist and a child molester...yes...that will do. As a retired prison guard, I can tell you that your run of the mill slave owner may not be equiped to handle this kind of slave; therefore, I have to say bad idea!
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