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It is from the Judeo-Christian values - the 6th commandment.
God created humans to be rulers of the world and in HIS image - Genesis - so that is why it applys to humans and not neceesarily animals.
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But what of those that lived before the Commandments were written?
It is from the Judeo-Christian values - the 6th commandment.
God created humans to be rulers of the world and in HIS image - Genesis - so that is why it applys to humans and not neceesarily animals.
Now if you don't believe that then :
There is no need to kill another for fear of retaliation from the victims family, kin, tribe etc.
unless... you are sure of victory or the goal [ food, land, property etc... ] being worth the risk.
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what if nothing had a value...if everything was the same the only value to it was you need it annd you get it, not extra, only what you need..nothing you had was valued if someone needs it they get it not extra, not one job paid more or one job valued more. no religion was better than the other it was just religion, no woman or man was more attractive than the other blond , black, red, big breast, small breast, tall, short, thin fat...everything was valued just for being...if a child cried it was feed, etc...do you think that human killing would even be an issue
It is human convention, and part of being civilized.
Humans have the ability to plan and rationalize, animals don't. Say you put 10 dogs in a kennel and don't feed them for three days. Then you feed one dog a plate of poison dog food and let the other dogs watch it die. If you take another dog out of the kennel and offer it a plate of dog food, it's going to eat it. So will the rest of them. They don't have the ability to plan and rationalize and conceive of the future in the same capacity as humans (capacity - that's the important part. I'm well aware that animals hoard food for the winter, etc).
Civilization is what makes it wrong to kill a person. In a civilized society, we don't take away or violate human rights, and the biggest human right of all is life. That's why people call Islam uncivilized, because (some) believe in honor killings. If we want to go back to living in the stone ages and flinging poop at each other, we can legitimize killing others, but I like toilet paper and would rather put up with my mother-in-law (joking!) than have to live in a cave.
Killing a person is wrong. But, can it be justified? Sure. When you put someone to death who has nothing left to contribute to this world, it's easy(er) to justify their death. That's why we don't execute people who shoplift; they stand a chance at rehabilitation. Now some might argue (correctly) that some people who are sentenced to death could be rehabilitated, but our society doesn't like to allow for the chance we might be wrong. You let a shoplifter back out on the street and he steals a toaster; let a murder go and he kills your sister. Which is worse? When you go to war with another country to fight for something you believe in, the war is justified, therefore deaths are also justified. You can't have a war without casualties (well, the Cold War, but whatever), and sometimes you can't fight for what you believe in without war.
Ok enough said, I am going to stay where I started and go with Jillian on this one! I think i have thought it through enough to come to the conclusion that I am not a debater. I never have been and I see things in a more "normal" aspect, or maybe I should say more "common" aspect. Whatever the word, you know what I mean. I have enjoyed coming back to the computer every once in a while and noticing new posts on this, and I am sure it will continue with you people who like a good debate. A lot of these issues were hypothetical so I am not sure if it really mattered anyway1
To some people its not. A good example is a soldier fighting in a "just war" is it wrong for him to kill a enemy? Or a convicted murderer being put to death?
I am not saying that I can't do it, it is just that the deeper it goes, the sillier it becomes to me. Some subjects are different and to tell you the truth I am completely awful at debates, I can't seem to get my thoughts into the right words to let you know how I really see something. I must need to take a writing class or touch up on my vocabulary. I just don't have it in me yet to go this far. I am only being honest, I know it sounds funny to some of you. I really enjoyed this thread and will follow it to see where it goes. I do believe that it is wrong to commit murder, and I don't know who's to say what killings are right and what killings are wrong. Please don't murder on my thoughts, they are pretty weak at this point. But you just wait, they will get stronger with the more threads I read like this. Watch out, I am learning! Look out for Startover!
startover,
Philosophy is like that. I remember Steve Martin's famous quote (he majored in it): "If you're studying geology, which is all facts, as soon as you get out of school you forget it all, but philosophy you remember just enough to screw you up for the rest of your life."
lol startover ...I was just giving alot of for instances...but think what if we really did think that way, that everyone and everything was the same or on the totaally different end....i'm just saying a lot of people have ordered murder's (mass) they thought the were right in doing so...Hitler...hussein (insane)...I think you helped keep the ideas flowing as well as the other...thank's to the one that started the thread
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