In read posts from this very helpful site, a came across this quote from another site I visit. Seem appropriate.

experience


Without experiences which render life unbearable and which make the hope of something new appear alluring and promising, there is no impulse toward inner change. But if painful life experience is not pondered and questioned, not raised to the level of insight, that impulse remains merely a feeling, a momentary desire. Only insight into what is necessary for real change can prove that that experience has been something more than a mirage. And if insight remains merely insight into the meaning of an experience (for man is always in danger of believing that he already is or can do what he has merely glimpsed as insight) still nothing will be changed. A new attitude has to be cultivated in order to ensure progress on a new path.

HARA, K G Von Durckheim

NeedKarma

Agreed. Some people over analyze every moment of their life without ever adapting and evolving their attitude.

Starman

I disagree that life has to become unbearable in order for a person to desire to change. Some persons seek change under conditions that are pleasant. For example, the rich man who takes up the piano as a hobby and becomes a musician. Or the person whoes friend teaches him how to paint. Or one who grows in apreciation of other cultures via travel.

So the syllogism's premise is faulty.

BTW
The expression "real change" is in need of clarrification via definition. Otherwise it remains open to many different degrees of interpretation.

fredg

HI,
I agree with Starman.
More definition is needed.
Such as, bad experiences, repeated over and over, often require a change of attitude. Making changes in an attitude mostly comes from bad experiences; when one finally realizes that something needs to change.

magprob

I get it Mr. Yet. I think it is right on! Everything is the result of thought. Before anything material can exist it must be in the mind of the person creating it. The clinical defenition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If you want different results from the ones you are getting...change your mind and how you think. If you think you will get nothing, you won't be disapointed! We do create our own reality, like it or not. Learning how to master the art is the secret of life.