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    woh337 Posts: 149, Reputation: 6
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    Jul 7, 2007, 03:18 PM
    Are you a loser?
    What is your definition about "loser"?

    I constantly think people are losers if they drop school because they spent their money traveling instead of paying tuition, or people made big mistakes at work(like talking rubbish about boss,steal stuff), or people who don't pass tests because they don't study hard,
    I easily think people are loser? And do you think they are losers? Or my definition is too strict!

    I don't want to think so many people are losers... but... I sometimes think people who picked the wrong majors at college then they can't find a job they want after they gradauted are losers too!

    Do u think they are? :confused:
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    Jul 7, 2007, 03:21 PM
    There are other ways of defining a loser, but I don't think you'd like it if I posted them here.
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    Jul 7, 2007, 03:25 PM
    I personally do not like using the word loser.
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    Jul 7, 2007, 03:41 PM
    It is possible to never lose.
    Easy, to never lose, all you have to do is, never quite, never give up, and you cannot lose.
    Losers are people who give up, who quite, or who can't be bothered at all.
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    Jul 7, 2007, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by woh337
    What is your definition about "loser"?
    I think we all have qualities that make us a loser in some capacity. I've been the manager for a couple places and I'm sure some of my employees thought I was a loser. But then again, I probably felt the same way about them. It's not an easy defition to define because somebody that is a loser to me is probably not a loser to others. Ultimately the definition must come from with in and forget the society at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by woh337
    I constantly think ppl are losers if they drop school coz they spent their money traveling instead of paying tuition, or ppl made big mistakes at work(like talking sh!t about boss,steal stuff), or ppl who don't pass tests coz they don't study hard,
    Well it's funny you mention the school thing. In high school I never studied and didn't care if I passed or failed. I also had other issues at home that just made me give up for awhile. I also didn't understand the importance of studying... and if you want to know the truth at 30 years old and with a Bacholer's degree I'm still not sure of it's importance. I see guys who play sports or people who make movies make much more then I think there worth and I find very little of them intelligent. Listening to an athlete give an interview is mindboggling when I think that some how they 4 pointed there way through college. How could that be I wonder? Because they never had to study for anything and they were given a pass.

    Now the vast majority are not going to live the life but I felt no challenge to learn anything until I entered college. That also had to do with the fact I was on my own and not living in a horrible environment. But my point is that most people don't study for a reason.

    In fact people don't do thing or do things for reasons they may not even be aware of.

    Quote Originally Posted by woh337
    I easily think ppl are loser? and do u think they are losers? or my definition is too strict!

    I don't want to think so many ppl are losers...but...I sometimes think ppl who picked the wrong majors at college then they can't find a job they want after they gradauted are losers too!

    Do u think they are??:confused:
    I wonder every day if I should have done something different. I wonder if I had would I be wealthy or who would I have met. That's the imagination at work. I can't help that although I can help guide it. But everybody is like that.

    But you also have no idea what has happened to people you think are losers. I see homeless people every day, and they annoy the living crap out of me with the "do you have any spare change" line. Every single day. I don't even respond to them anymore. But are they losers? To me they are people who are mentally il. To me they are people that were abused as kids and never figured out how to over come it. To me they are people who deserve more of my tax money than any politician does that counts towards their salary. I'd hardly call them losers even though they annoy me. But I know others would and do. So in the end it's up to you to look past the outer shell and dig a little deeper to figure out why this person you think is a loser is acting like they do. You might be surprised to learn that they have a reasonable psychological explanation for their actions.
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    Jul 8, 2007, 08:22 AM
    A loser a really bad word?
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    Jul 8, 2007, 01:56 PM
    Haha. I think the fact that you sit here and judge people for chosing things differently then you would have makes you kind of lame. Just because someone spent college money on traveling or made some stupid/silly mistakes in their lives doesn't mean they're "losers". They are living their lives and learning from it. Who are you to pass judgement on others because you disagree with something they have done?
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    Jul 8, 2007, 02:31 PM
    Some questions / statements asked seem to be a bit "rough around the edges", but the deeper intention is of a curious mind. If we are not taught or informed that what may seem to be a blanket statement or observation most always has a deeper foundation. I agree very much with Chuff in that we cannot judge a book by its cover.

    We get to where we are because of choice or decision. Even if the choice may appear to be "wrong" in our eyes, it was their choice and at the time, the right one.

    The word "Loser" is quite harsh, and yet people use that word so freely. Could it be, my friend, that "the unknown" is disturbing to you?. If so, that is OK, maybe take it one step further and ask yourself, "I wonder what's really going on in their life to cause this person to be that way?" That way, instead of judging at face value, your heart grows a bit more to be compassionate and open rather than closed.

    You have allot of years ahead of you, I am sure, and you will be faced with this in relationships, work, travel, school of any sorts, and society.

    "Winners never Quit...and Quitters never Win"
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    Jul 8, 2007, 10:16 PM
    I for one think you need to concentrate on how you look at yourself. When someone is constantly thinking others are "losers" they are most likely very unhappy with their own selves.
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    Jul 8, 2007, 10:29 PM
    Are you the kind of person that likes to be in control?

    You sound very directed and focused on your own goals, and that is wonderful - but just because others around you don't see the world in the same way, they aren't losers. Losers are people who have no regard for others - they are alcoholics, cheaters, drug addicts and liers... Someone that would rather spend their money on travel that tuition is a free spirit, care-free, wanting to smile and enjoy life... there should be more people like that in the world.

    I believe that your interpretation of the word 'Loser' is a little harsh, and you should take some time out and spend it doing something wild - Go Bungy jumping or sky diving!
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    Jul 9, 2007, 05:50 AM
    I don't have the heart to call/think that anyone is a loser even if that person makes a lot of mistakes.
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    Jul 9, 2007, 08:47 AM
    Yes, shut up, retard, and loser are pretty much offensive to me. I wish more people had a hard time saying mean things too. Not to say I don't curse, I just don't call people names or degrade them. Good luck with the loser thing.
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    Jul 9, 2007, 08:55 AM
    I am, some by fate and some my own fault. But none the less.
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    Jul 9, 2007, 09:10 AM
    Matt, I would have never known. Good luck with all that. LOL
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    Jul 9, 2007, 09:26 AM
    Matt, you need some help?
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    Jul 9, 2007, 02:45 PM
    I think it helps preventing people from making more stupid mistakes. I sometimes think I am a loser because I didn't get into Harvard, the way I think enhanced personal self control I think. I am a person who is very strict on myself. It seems to help me be more dilligent and persistent that way! I am never satisfied about what I have achieved.
    BUT I AM MORE STRICT WITH MYSELF THAN WITH OTHERS. I don't think people who don't get in Ivy Leagues are losers, so please don't mistake what I mean this time.
    Thank you! :)
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    Jul 9, 2007, 02:49 PM
    That is why I said I didn't think you are happy. There has to be a point where you are satisfied with yourself and it doesn't mean you can't get better, it just means you have to be proud of what you have done. Not everyone wants to go to Harvard, I don't but I am not a loser. Stay here and feel free to talk about it. You sound so smart but way to snooty to me.
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    Jul 9, 2007, 07:49 PM
    I think people that spend too much time worrying about other people and their lives are losers. Focus on yourself and don't worry about what everyone else is doing, or you will slowly become a loser yourself!
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    #19

    Jul 9, 2007, 08:09 PM
    That's right chuff. What up chuff, word to yer mother.
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    Jul 10, 2007, 08:42 AM
    Well, when people complain to you all the time about their problems and their mistakes... there is no way you don't look at them. I am not focused on them... I don't care what they do. I am just wondering I mean they knew it's stupid to spend all the money buy all the things they don't need or spend too much time having fun instead of doing their school and work, then why they complain about it? They are the ones who enjoy doing that!!

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