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Old Apr 9, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Some men and child support

I want to know why some men, that pay child support, just complain that it is way too much. We are talking about men who pay, oh around 200$ a month for a child, when the mother pays a lot more then that raising that child.
Why do men, yes I'm sure there are some woman, complain over such a small amount of money when it comes to a child?
I must stand and applaud the fathers who remain a great father through their child's life, and never complain about money.

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Old Apr 9, 2008, 01:05 PM   #2  
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because most men don't really realise how much kids cost they don't buy their clothes and they don't go food shopping they don't realise how much nappies and baby milk and wipes and anything else costs because usually the woman doe's it

my eldest sons dad took him to toy city to get him a few things when he came back he had 4 items and the total of the 4 items was 350euro he looked and me and asked me if i was working at home because every room in my house except my room and the bathrooms have massive toy boxes full to the top with toys that's not included outside toys

they just don't realise how expensive kids are
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Cookie Monster is right!!!
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The rate of child support is based on the income of the person paying. It's about 30%, or it was for us. Sorry to disagree with you COOKIE MONSTER, children do not have to cost that much. Sure, they add cost to the household, but maybe 15% if you shop carefully for daycare, housing and children's clothes.

We, as a society have become accustomed to a lifestyle where we get what we want. So our children "deserve" the best of everything. Does that really work? A parent, not custodial who lives on subsistence wages should not be required to pay 30% of his income! He might go to school, get a better paying job...with what?

Child support is about the kids. It usually goes to buy a nicer house (for the kids of course.)
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I have known guys that work and pay child support and then do not have enough money left to pay their own bills. I think that is the main reason they complain. People say well you made the baby but hind sight is 20/20.
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The rate of child support is based on the income of the person paying. It's about 30%, or it was for us. Sorry to disagree with you COOKIE MONSTER, children do not have to cost that much. Sure, they add cost to the household, but maybe 15% if you shop carefully for daycare, housing and children's clothes.

We, as a society have become accustomed to a lifestyle where we get what we want. So our children "deserve" the best of everything. Does that really work? A parent, not custodial who lives on subsistence wages should not be required to pay 30% of his income! He might go to school, get a better paying job...with what?

Child support is about the kids. It usually goes to buy a nicer house (for the kids of course.)

Geez, maybe what a mother pays for child things should be based on what she makes!
I think it is completely idiotic and unfair how it is picked out what child support is. If the man complains, give him the child to raise and then see what they think!

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I have a close friend who is a single mother with two kids. She fights to find work and then most of it pays for the phone bill, rent, cable, clothes, food, and other very badly needed things.
She deals with a father that pays about $150 a month. That doesn't pay for much! Then when he is asked to cover the cost of his children's trip to visit him, he just complains that he's not happy with paying another 10 bucks!
I have dealt with a few female friends, single moms. They do anything and everything for their child and even move so the child is closer to their father. These are woman who don't get any time to go to a party, movie, anything! In every case the fathers have just complained about that small amount of money they have to pay.
I do know, not all men are like that. There are very few that never complain and always put their child first. I just don't understand why these selfish men are the way they are.
I also really hope they use a condom for the rest of their life.
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also want to add...when I was married I lived in an abandoned house with virtually no income. Four babies later my (now ex) husband was making $1,000. a month and broke by the end of each month. Rent, utilities, food, car insurance, monthly necessities.
My ex asked me why in the world was it costing so much now when we got by on practically nothing a few years earlier.....DUH! We were living in an abandoned house in the boondocks!
Now we have 4 babies, bills, a house and a car. So I agree with Cookie Monster that guys just don't get the cost of living.
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also want to add...when I was married I lived in an abandoned house with virtually no income. Four babies later my (now ex) husband was making $1,000. a month and broke by the end of each month. Rent, utilities, food, car insurance, monthly necessities.
My ex asked me why in the world was it costing so much now when we got by on practically nothing a few years earlier.....DUH! We were living in an abandoned house in the boondocks!
Now we have 4 babies, bills, a house and a car. So I agree with Cookie Monster that guys just don't get the cost of living.

And to think, we still vote them into the wrong places!
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I would just like to point out that a single mom with TWO kids should have learned to cross her legs after ONE kid, if she wasn't at a point where she could afford it.

And really....your post should be repeated to all of the silly teens that are out having sex and then panicking and thinking "Am I pregnant?". Or even better--the ones that are TRYING to get pregnant.

I have no sympathy--neither for the fathers paying who are poor, nor for the mothers struggling to make ends meet. Sex = babies. Sex ed and society have SURELY made that clear by now. If you can't afford your kids, you should have either given them up for adoption, or kept your legs crossed.

Actually--I take it back. I DO have a little sympathy for the guy who had no choice in the matter, because the babymomma just HAD to have and KEEP her baby, and now he's stuck paying, because SHE wouldn't choose adoption.

I know JUST as many women that whine and complain about not getting enough child support, yet who are still wearing new jeans, with makeup, and cable TV and a new cellphone. Why do some WOMEN expect to be able to go out, buy new things, wear nice clothes and have time to themselves after they have kids?

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