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  • Oct 9, 2010, 10:24 PM
    pinkpillows
    My 7 yo daughter is mean
    My 7 yo daughter is also mean. And it is mean in a hard way to describe. She is mainly mean to her friends but only some of the time - not all of the time. She has the most difficulty when it is her and 2 other girls.

    She doesn't call her friends names or anything, but she will say certain things. For example, if her and another friend are playing with something - then she may say something like "there isn't enough for you". Or "you can't use that color". She says these things not nicley but in a bossy, not nice voice.

    If some girls askher to come over and play - and she doesn't want to - then she may say "no!" ( not no thank you - but a no in a snotty, almost teenager type attitude with the eyes rolling and everything)

    If someone has something that she wants - then she may start to cry and pout until she gets it.

    I also don't know what to do. I have talked with her and told her that no one will want to be her friend if she acts that way. If she says something really mean - I will take away dessert or playdates as punishment ( and I always follow through). Once she lost playdates for 3 weeks. Another time - dessert for 10 days.

    I have talked with the school counsellors. They had enrolled her in a program to "build self esteem". At the end of the program - the instructors told me that they"loved " my daughter and it was a joy to her her in the class. The thing is - adults always - and I mean always - love my daughter. We have gone out to restatuarants and the mangers have given her toys. We have gone to 7-11 and the clerk gives her a lollipop. etc.

    For her art projects that she doesn't want to share - I have told her that we can get more of the things that are :used up".

    Help. It almost seems as this is just " the way she is". I am concerned that she will start losing her frineds. There is already one mom in our neighborhood that doens't want her daughter palying with my daughter.

    I also roll play with her barbies to try to show her how other people feel when she acts the way she does. She alwyas says to me " your right mommy" and "I'm sorry" But the behavior still continues.


    We have not tried counselling.

    Does anyone have any other suggestions? I need help ( we have one older son as well about 18 months older than his sister)



  • Oct 10, 2010, 06:24 PM
    QLP

    How do the two children get on?
    It strikes me that your daughter has learned how to charm adults but to sometimes push other children away. Does she compete strongly for your attention over her brother? Could this be an extension of sibling rivalry?
  • Oct 11, 2010, 06:35 AM
    Jake2008
    You, are an awesome mom. As I read through your posts thinking of things and suggestions, you had already covered most of the bases.

    Girls at this age, in my opinion, can be gangs, when it is more than two. To your daughter, maybe she is just the type of kid who does well one on one, but to add a third child (or more) leaves her floundering, insecure and feeling threatened. She does well one on one I take it, and that doesn't mean she lacks any social graces, or that there is something wrong with her.

    Shyness and insecurity may be fueling this. She is comfortable playing with one child, but stepping outside that comfort zone, when others are added. It changes the nature of the activity, the interraction, the competition. Kids at this age have a new best friend every other day, and when you suddenly feel comfortable in your own skin with a person, somebody else jumps into the mix, and it changes everything.

    I would respect her development and comfort levels, for what they are. I would continue to discipline for rude behaviour, but try not to push too hard to have her feeling there is something wrong with her, because she is not like the other kids in the neighbourhood. Maybe her maturity level (as you've described how she is with adults) is beyond that of her friends, and part of her frustration is just that fact alone.

    Her frustration level may have nothing to do with being hurtful or mean to other chidren, maybe it is just more that, at age 7, she isn't getting through to people that she'd just rather entertain herself, or have one friend to play with at a time. Thus, a typical 7 year old response comes out as anger, because she is not mature enough to entirely express herself.

    I have found that parents do the group think thing. Goals and rules of behaviour are set for the kids, instead of letting them find their own way, or decide or show, what theyy are more comfortable with. I've seen too many parents push kids into social and sporting situations when clearly they don't want to. As though meeting these social markers, whether welcomed or not, are expectations that have to be met, and met with success.

    If you think of the adults you know, probably most of them are not social butterflies, comfortable in large groups, or enjoy being obligated to engage in socializing. We accept this in our friends as being preference, or choosing what makes them comfortable, and likely enjoy their company one on one, but for some reason, we expect all children to meet those social markers, in order to be well adjusted adults.

    Your daughter will likely meet, eventually, a more compatible mate, and prefer the company of a few good friends, rather than a bunch of kids who are put together, just for the simple reason that they should all play well, get along, and like each other. I think that is unrealistic.

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