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Old Mar 5, 2005, 06:11 AM
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Win Zip Doesn't seem to Zip Well

I am using Winzip 9, but it seems it doesn't compress files a lot. Here are a few examples:

Orginal: 2243 kb to 1950 kb

4928kb to 3688 KB

3514kb to 3467 kb

Some files are jpeg others Power Point.

I have to send a lot of files to an associate , so I am looking for an application that is universal.

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Old Mar 5, 2005, 07:09 AM   #2  
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Well JPG files are already compressed. You are not going to get very much additional compression. Not sure about the Powerpoint files.

ZIP compression wil vary from file type to file type. For example JPG files generally compress further less than 5%. DBF files generally compress over 75%.
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Xip File Program

Hi,
I have never really liked WinZip.
I use a great, free program called Enzip; works well with all associations, all file names.

If you would like to try it, you can get it at:

http://website.lineone.net/~chris_m/

It compresses, decompresses, files to any folder you wish, with a Right click on any file.

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Just a point to add here. I've used Enzip in the past and its a good program, and its a freeware. I personally prefer Winzip since it can do much more. But BOTH programs are the same under the hood. When they are dealing with the ZIP format they are using the SAME algorithms to compress a file. Otherwise, You couldn't open a ZIP file created with EnZip with WinZip or vice versa. The ZIP format has become the main standard for compression.

So from the standpoint of compression, it doesn't matter what shell you use. Whether you use EnZip, WinZip or the original PKZIP. The compressed size will be essentially the same. It might differ a few bytes from machine to machine, but not significantly.

As I answered, the issue is not what you use to compress, but the format you are compressing.
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I use Winrar as my number compression utility and then keep Winzip around as needed, I like Winace also, these and others can either do it all, or do some of what the others do, but I prefer the original programs.

Powerarchiver is excellent also.

I usually zip and rar together.
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Try http://www.7-zip.org/


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I am using Winzip 9, but it seems it doesn't compress files a lot. Here are a few examples:

Orginal: 2243 kb to 1950 kb

4928kb to 3688 KB

3514kb to 3467 kb

Some files are jpeg others Power Point.

I have to send a lot of files to an associate , so I am looking for an application that is universal.
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Winzip Doesn't Seem to Zip Well

Thanks everyone for the explanation. I have expanded my knowledge again.
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Archive them with 7zip, protect your archives with password, use FTP for file exchange (get a free file storage place if you don't have your own)


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I am using Winzip 9, but it seems it doesn't compress files a lot. Here are a few examples:

Orginal: 2243 kb to 1950 kb

4928kb to 3688 KB

3514kb to 3467 kb

Some files are jpeg others Power Point.

I have to send a lot of files to an associate , so I am looking for an application that is universal.
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Enzip

Hi,
I still use Enzip, and it does work beautifully; with anything I need to do.
Opinions vary.
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I just tried Enzip, it was hard to find, at download.com and a couple other main sites, it was unavailable, so I kept searching and found it.

Mainly Enzip is just a plain vanilla copy of Winzip, just does not quite offer as much, that's the only differences I found. if anyone wanted an alternative, PowerARchiver is the only other one, that could compete with either winzip or anything else.

In my book, just for zipping programs, its Winzip with Powerarchiver just a notch below, then the plain looking lower performing Enzip last.

I make a part time living, out of testing programs for review websites and this was my latest category, and I would definitly recommend Winzip over the rest.

Enzip is fine, if your zipping needs are plain simple and small.

And also, here are 2 examples of a test on a photo,
Original photo size.
40,314
Winrar compressed it to 38,513
Winzip 39,616
Enzip 39,619

So actually Winrar compresss more than either, I did many different sized phots and files, Winrar always compresses them more than those 2, Winrar also unzips, zip files and as far as speed goes, not much difference in the 3.

The larger and more files you compress, the more the difference is between Winrar and the other 2, the more you space you save the larger the files.

So Winrar is the true no. 1 Compression program, it's just as simple as any to use, using enzip and winzip, except for the looks, you would not know you were using a dfferent program, and you would only see the other difference, if you needed many more options and then Winzip offers more than Enzip.

Final Decision, you want the Maximum Compression thats simple.
1. Winrar
2. Winzip
3. PowerArchiver
4. Winace
5. Enzip So it looks like that the users of Enzip just happens to be a personal preference and not a fact based decision.
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