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    Mar 19, 2006, 08:02 PM
    Antivirus...
    May I get some advise, its about what is the best antivirus that I can use that won't make my PC slow, this antivirus will be install to a none network or no internet PC so that means I need a antivir that no updating require but if there is how can I update this antivir to a no internet PC... :confused:
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    Mar 20, 2006, 05:48 AM
    Hi,
    First, any good antivirus will require getting updates, every now and then. As new viruses are developed and start to spread, any good antivirus program must keep up with them; with "definitions" to download to either stop them, or scan your computer to get rid of them.
    If your computer is "stand alone", not connected to the net, then about the only way you can get a virus is by using an infected floppy disk, or using a CD that has infected files on it.
    I suggest using AVG; from http://www.grisoft.com.
    You have to use another computer connected to the net, then download the free version (if you want the free version). Then, burn it to a CD-R or whatever. The file will be the execute file, to install the program.
    Take the CD-R to your computer, copy the file to your hard drive, then start the installation.
    To do the updates, say weekly; you will have to use another computer, download the update file, burn it to a CD-R, then copy that to your own computer's hard drive, and install it. At the website, under the heading "Downloads", will be a link to "Updates". That page shows the last update file you can download.
    I do wish you the best, and good luck.
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    Mar 20, 2006, 06:21 AM
    I'd probably get shot for this but...

    I would say don't put a virus scanner on it. After all, if the PC is not connected to the internet or a network then the only place the virus can come from is disks you put into the machine. If you just make sure that all disks going in are clean, you are fine. Just install a scanner at the start to ensure the PC is clean from the word go, then remove it once you are sure it is. After all, if a virus pops up a month down the line, who's to say it wasn't there from the start.

    But if you do want a virus scanner, there are free ones: AVG as Fred mentioned; Avast is the one I prefer. No idea on the speed though.

    I did find these though: http://www.nod32-av.com/compare/Comp...20Products.htm
    http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/4520-66...1.html?tag=txt

    The first one could be biased but I have tried Nod32 before and I really liked it. The protection it gave was excellent.
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    Mar 20, 2006, 06:26 AM
    HI,
    I was afraid to suggest not using an antivirus program on it; afraid I would be shot, too. But, I do agree with LT about it. If whoever you get the disks from will run a scan on them first, you might not need it.
    But, personally, I would rather "play it safe" and use it. It's a matter of opinion.
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    Mar 20, 2006, 07:09 AM
    In the past the primary way that virus were distributed was through infected floppies. Now its done primarily by sending e-mail files across the Net. Therefore, if you have a truly stand alone PC the need for an A/V is minimal. An A/V that is not updated is useless anyhow.

    As long as you are very careful about what disks you put in your machine, then I would say an A/V is not necessary.
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    Mar 20, 2006, 08:00 AM
    Hi,
    I do agree with the answer before this one. If you aren't going to the "trouble" of downloading the update difinitions from another computer, then burn them to a floppy or cd-r, and install them in your computer, then the antivirus program will do you no good. New viruses come out quite often.
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    Mar 20, 2006, 08:09 AM
    Not to mention that the CD you put the definitions could have a new virus on it that would then infect your PC before you could load the definition on. Oh the irony ;)
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    Mar 20, 2006, 08:41 PM
    Is it possible to put first the antivir then download the update from other PC with net but how can I put the update or rather say where do I put it... cause I check an update for avg from other PC but can't find where in the avg directory the update was place...
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    Mar 21, 2006, 05:55 AM
    Hi,
    You really don't need to place the latest update file in the AVG download folder from the internet.
    Make a new folder, such as c:/AVG updates.
    Then, when you put the CD with the latest update in your computer, copy the file to your folder, such as the C:/AVG Updates.
    These following steps only have to be done once:
    Open AVG
    Click on Update Manager
    Click on the Properties button
    Click on the Properties tab (should already be opened to it)
    Uncheck "Do not ask for update source"
    Click on Apply, then OK
    The above then will ask you where the update file is, and not automatically try to connect with the internet.
    Then, every time you update the file, use these steps:
    Right click on the AVG icon, in the system tray by the computer clock.
    Left click on "Check for Updates"
    Click on the Folder button
    Then, scroll to the C: Drive, then scroll to your folder name.
    Left click on the folder, then click on OK.
    It then should update itself from the file you added to that folder.
    Best of luck.
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    Mar 21, 2006, 03:15 PM
    I agree with fredg avg is by far the best( better than nortan and mcaffee) and best of all it's the best and free!
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    Mar 21, 2006, 11:49 PM
    OK, but where do I locate update so that I can copy, then place into my stand alone PC... After updating this AVG do I have to copy the whole AVG folder and place into the nonnetwork PC and update the AVG which is already intalled in the nonnetwork PC..
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    Mar 22, 2006, 09:09 AM
    HI, avel,
    Go to this link:
    http://www.grisoft.com/doc/Updates/lng/us/tpl/tpl01
    It lists the last update files, giving the date they were released. I download the Priority and the Optional both.
    You can download them to the Downloads folder from an internet connected PC. Then, copy them to a CD-R, etc.
    When you place the CD in your non-connected computer, copy the files to your folder, like C:/AVG Updates.
    When you open AVG to update it, click on the Folder, then click on OK. I'm not sure if it will automatically update all the files in the Folder. I've never used this method.
    If not, then you may have to click on the individual file (in that folder), then click on OK to update.
    Best wishes.

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