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Old Mar 2, 2003, 02:24 PM
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If humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes on this earth? Why didn't they evolve?

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Old Jun 24, 2007, 11:00 AM   #11  
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well yes you have explained it very right and i got my corection over here.
but i would like to add that, since we the humans, ape, orangatans , gorrillas and monkeys share a common ansestory...........and now coming to today's molecular aspect, now we better know that we not only share our some selient features with them ,but about morethan 40% of our genome matches with those of other primates family..
for information we are only diferent from them as we are only other subspecies but not diferent entirely species .

the genus is same and the species too ,only what differs is the sub species. e.g we are HOMO SEPIANS and our ape bro is HOMO SEPIAN APIAN(just as example).

so we both exist here on earth at the same time.....oh yes coeval.

it is always not necessary for the unevolved species to die out ........atleast it is not the case in primates.
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Old Jun 24, 2007, 11:20 AM   #12  
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this brilliant question that matty asked ,used to be my question in my paleantology and evolution class ,but honestly i never got a satisfactory answer to it.well i hope i will begin researching on it and will give u a better explanation.
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this is a very interesting topic
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Old Jun 24, 2007, 12:06 PM   #14  
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Sovaira, we do not share genus with any other animal alive today. We are different species.
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I don't think we will ever find that missing link that proves man evolved from apes, and I think man is his own species, even though we share common DNA or whatever just as sea creatures, and birds we stand alone as man, not primate. Just a opinion from an uneducated, and some times warped mind, with no evidence, or data or scriptures, to quote.
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Even if we did evolve from apes, we are different species. "Species" is a human construct.
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hay sorry asking ,but it seemed to be very authroized and literal language.
keep up the good work.
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If humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes on this earth? Why didn't they evolve?
The following was taken from
http://www.plesiosaur.com/creationis...40317Email.php

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Email dated 17/03/04

Hi Richard.

Thanks for the feedback. We believe feedback is always good, whether positive or negative. I have entered my responses below, indented directly below each of your points. Thanks.

Most people today have heard of the "theory of evolution" at some point during their grade school years, and assume this theory is fact.

If this is the case, they've been badly taught. The facts are out there in the real world. The theory explains them. This is the nature of theories in science.

Actually text books ONLY give the theory of evolution as reason why we are here today. Long ago the courts banned the creationist view from textbooks since this was considered "religious", and religion was not allowed to be taught in public schools. Since only evolution was taught, most assume it is fact (why would our books lie?)

His own quotes state that his theory contains "few facts", is purely "hypothetical", is "beyond the bounds of true science", and is "impossible to prove".

These quotes alone make the theory of evolution look foolish. These quotes make the author of this web site look dishonest. They are taken out of context to pretend that Darwin was saying something he did not.

In discussing evolution with others, we find that is every evolutionist's argument, that quotes we provide are "out of context". That is the one "free pass" that all evolutionists use when faced with a blaten quote that can only mean one thing. To further explain my point, I give the names of the actual books where these quotes were taken from, along with the page number. Take a look at the actual books and THEN tell me if I am quoting out of context. Once you do, I'm sure I won't hear back from you on the subject of "out of context" again. The ace card of "out of context" just doesn't work anymore and makes evolutionists look silly.

Throughout the centuries scientists have always argued where life on earth came from. "Creationists" are people who believe we were created by God. People who do not believe there is a God find the idea of life being created by a superior being unthinkable.

Many early (and for that matter, many contemporary) geologists and palaeontologists had a strong belief in God, and were inspired by their faith to explore the natural world as the work of God.

I'm aware that many people who believe in evolution also believe in God. This goes back to the subject I mention above about being taught only evolution, not creation in the schools. So most people just assume evolution is correct without giving it much thought because they figure, why would our textbooks lie? It's those that actually stop and start looking into the theory of evolution in depth, that start to argue against it.

It is a fact that the Darwin and many other scientists who had a hand in the theory of evolution did NOT believe in a God, and therefore the theory of evolution made that much more sense to them, and gave them some piece of mind. Many other scientists who DO believe in God followed suit initially because there were other ways to look at it while still believing in God. Now we have a split between creationist scientists and evolution scientists depending on which direction each scientist took in their studies and beliefs.

So these people have been forced to try and think of other possible ways how life could exist on earth in so many different forms (from a single cell all the way up to complex life forms called Homo Sapiens or human beings).

The evidence of the natural world is so overwhelmingly strong that the existence of evolution cannot be denied by anyone who has seriously studied the world. This in no way prevents people from believing in God.

Like I mention above, many who believe in God still keep the theory of evolution as a possibility. It's when they start looking at things like the gaps in the fossil records that scientists like to sweep under the rug, and claims about mutations into another species (which is impossible), that people who believe in God start to question the theory of evolution

In addition he stated that nature, over long periods of time, gradually selects and promotes features of increasing complexity and usefulness for survival. He called this built in feature "natural selection".

It's not a 'built-in feature'. It's a consequence of the existence of variation, and selection acting on that variation.

Natural Selection is the most ridiculous theory of all. Look at the human eye, the human kidneys, the human liver, the wings of a bird. Natural selection says that each stage of evolvement is an advantage, but is a mindless process which cannot plan ahead or conceive of a goal. That means the organs above, and the wings of a bird had to evolve accidentally, with no goal in mind and wind up performing ALL of the complex functions they perform today. If the eye didn't form in the same sequence, or decided to stop forming after 95% of what it is today, it wouldn't be able to see. If the wing took a different turn or stopped evolving early, no birds would fly. What if our kidneys, evolving mindlessly, not knowing where they was going, made a different turn or stopped early? There would be no life on earth because our bodies can't function without kidneys. Human life couldn't exist with 85% of a kidney.

If the theory of evolution were fact, then the fossil records would clearly show the gradual transformations over long periods of time that Darwin spoke of. They do.

There ARE gaps in the fossil records, and evolutionst scientists admit this. There appear to be gradual transformations in some areas, while other living things "appear" fully formed in other areas. This is a fact and I have quotes from many others on this fact. The fact that this happens and no scientist can explain why shows that there is something wrong with the theory of evolution.

But despite intense research for over 100 years since the theory of evolution was proposed by Darwin, It's nearly 150 years, by the way. not a single instance of a transitional form has EVER been found in the fossil records. Complete and utter bunkum. Museums are full of what any reasonable person would call 'transitional forms'.

These quotes from others on transitional forms say a lot (these are just a few):

http://www.overcomeproblems.com/trans_forms.htm

What the fossil records do show is each life form suddenly appearing, full blown, without any apparent relationship to what went before it. Completely untrue, as even a brief study of palaeontology will reveal.

To deny this is to simply look in the other direction at findings over the last century. Here are some quotes from others on life appearing fully formed (these are just a few):

http://www.overcomeproblems.com/transitional.htm

For example, if the theory of evolution were true, then the fossil records would show a smooth transition from one life form to another, such that it would be difficult to tell where invertebrates ended, and vertebrates began.

Which is what we find with conodonts and such like. Though this is NOT the case. It is. Instead, fully formed life forms such as certain classifications of fish, and other life forms suddenly jump into the fossil record seemingly from nowhere, Utterly untrue. with illogical gaps before them where their ancestors should be. Evolutionists do not dispute this fact. Yes they do, because it's not a fact. It's a lie.

You have a very weak argument by just saying "not a fact" to this with nothing else. I have quotes from notable people in the link I provided above, and if you want more, I can easily get them.

I skimmed through the rest of your reply which was extremely lengthy, and noticed a lot of "read the book" and "not true" without much backing. I'm going too cut to the chase here and state some key things that are bogus about the theory of evolution.

1) As I mentioned with Natural Selection above, for example, saying the human liver mindlessly and without a conceived goal evolved into an organ that secretes bile and is active in the formation of certain blood proteins and in the metabolism of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins by CHANCE is ludicrous. And our kidneys maintain proper water and electrolyte balance, regulate acid-base concentration, and filter the blood of metabolic wastes, which are then excreted as urine ALL by accident, by just HAPPENING to perform a critical function like this which is critical to sustain life is actually comical for people to say no goal was in mind and it was a mindless process for these to be created. To get the exact functioning kidney humans need to live is like hitting lotto. Then to do this with other organs is like hitting lotto again and again. The whole natural selection thing is comical.

2) And the other claim about mutations is also a joke. Mutations are shown to be extremely rare, are typically a disadvantage, and have never crossed the species boundary. Yet evolutionists use this mutation discussion to help prove evolution from one species to another.

3) And we can joke all night about all the hoaxes like Piltdown man and Java man, and the supposed finding of Neanderthal which many scientists say shows signs of a bone disease like rickets, which explains it's appearance. Other says Neanderthal is very close to Aborgines.



I have to go for now. Have a good night...

Paul
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As I am not very well versed with evolution and not that articulate enough to disprove or prove the theory, this article seems to shed light on the theory.
Hope its helpful

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Old Jul 24, 2007, 04:04 AM   #19  
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Am I missing something or is the text that you pasted very contradictory?

"For example, if the theory of evolution were true, then the fossil records would show a smooth transition from one life form to another, such that it would be difficult to tell where invertebrates ended, and vertebrates began. Which is what we find with conodonts and such like. Though this is NOT the case. It is."

Sorry? What?

It looks like a reply to a letter merged into the letter. But the formatting has been lost both here and on the link that you provided. It's very confusing.

Pretty much all of th creationist arguments presented here have a completely logical scientific rebuttal, which the author has ignored to further his agenda. The article, as far as i can make out, is poorly written and biased towards proving a point.
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Old Jul 24, 2007, 07:06 AM   #20  
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Why isnt it a fact then?

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"Just a theory"....

I quote:

"In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations that is predictive, logical and testable."

It IS a theory, which means that it's well founded.
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