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Apr 13, 2007, 08:29 AM
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| | | Christians in the Military My husband and I are both in the Army and have had issues with other soldiers (who are athiests) confused about how we can "kill" but not "murder" when speaking of war. For the record, we've done neither. We are both Christians and believe in the cause of this war, but the non-believers argue their point that death is all the same. We have Biblical answers but wonder how others feel about this situation.
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Apr 13, 2007, 09:43 AM
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| yes, there is a large difference, first about 1/5 of the old testement ( well alot anyway) shows wars, God blessing his people in battle, and the taking by force of lands for God's people, and protecting that land by force.
We see the right of the government even with bibical approval of the right to use the death of a person as a punishment. Death penalty.
The only restriction is that of murder, yes many of the new liberal bibles are trying to change the word murder to kill in the 10 commandments it is murder not merley kill.
Jesus did not tell the military to change from the military and even healed the daughter of one military person.
And as a solider it does not matter if "you beleive in the cause" or not, you are under the authority of the military, and as such you are obligated to follow thier instructins, and following the orders of your government is very clear in the bible. |
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Apr 13, 2007, 03:50 PM
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| Fr_Chuck- I certainly appreciate your answer. I am in flight school with several so-called athiests and I became very discouraged today during a lengthy conversation with them about how I can be in the military and still be a Christian. I find comfort in your words. Thank you for the encouragement and help. |
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Apr 13, 2007, 05:12 PM
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| remember most athiests are not really athiests, they are either anti christian or worst. A real athiest would not care if you are a christian, since they beleive there is nothing so what you beleive or don't believe does not matter to them.
Those that are anti christian are like Satan, they like to twist or use one verse out of the bible to attach you. So these people want to hurt a person for thier beleifs, so it shows a hatred in them. But be of joy, if you were not considered worthy and a beleiver Satan would not send people such as these to attach your faith.
And many are also jealous, and want to break your nerve so you will not do good in flight school, |
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Apr 13, 2007, 05:42 PM
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| Thank you, Fr_Chuck. Your information is great and I'll share it with my husband. |
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Apr 13, 2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck remember most athiests are not really athiests, they are either anti christian or worst. A real athiest would not care if you are a christian, since they beleive there is nothing so what you beleive or don't believe does not matter to them.
Those that are anti christian are like Satan, they like to twist or use one verse out of the bible to attach you. So these people want to hurt a person for thier beleifs, so it shows a hatred in them. But be of joy, if you were not considered worthy and a beleiver Satan would not send people such as these to attach your faith.
And many are also jealous, and want to break your nerve so you will not do good in flight school, | why thank you Chuck. Actually I respect you for serving but from what I understand of Jesus and his teaching in the Bible how war and killing can not be justified. As far as I know Christianity is based on Christs message of love. respectfully -- Savage |
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Apr 14, 2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSavage why thank you Chuck. Actually I respect you for serving but from what I understand of Jesus and his teaching in the Bible how war and killing can not be justified. As far as I know Christianity is based on Christs message of love. respectfully -- Savage | My christian understanding of the conditions for a justified military defense would be if: The damage by the aggressor on the nation would be certain and grave. The use of arms must not produce evils greater than the evil to be defeated. All means of diplomacy must be taken first. There must be a certainty of success. |
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Apr 14, 2007, 03:51 PM
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| I would disagree to a point, I did not see "Gods People" going to Jerico and having talks to surrender, and actually they had no chance of winning against a walled city.
so they went in against a enemy with no chance of winning and did so with God's blessing. And I see no terms of why we must follow the directions of our government in the bible, only that we follow it. Surely jesus and Pauls minstry to the soldiers who were invaders and surely with no right to be there, there was no mention of anything military, if you are in the military you be the best worker possible, it even addresses slavery so that the slave should even remain a slave and be the best slave possible. It did not address social change or political matters. |
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