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Do you believe God really intended for women to carry attache cases and drive BMWs to work? Are they fulfilling the mission God designed them for by doing this?
Yes this can happen,and does but their are a lot of families that balance the two jobs and still raise well balanced kids. They tend to work together to keep the home a home and share in the nurturing. It depends on the man and woman.
When both parents work, the children largely have two "fathers." The silent message to the kids is that money and the "world's" values are what's most important. The nurturing role of the mother is devalued and family relationships suffer. Greed (idolatry) takes over, resulting in a disfunctional family where selfishness prevails. Ultimately, the strains become so great that the family "flys apart."
The working mother that would drop her maternal instincts just because she works didn't have those instincts in the first place. While I don't disagree that many are chasing the almighty dollar I certainly disagree with your categorizing all working couples as bearers of disfunctional families. Many families will be dysfunctional regardless of how many parents work. These days it's tough to get by on one salary.
What people forget is when man and woman sit down and make their plan as to the kind of life they will lead and the way they will raise their children it is their decision, right or wrong they are the ones to make the plan and make it work. Their choice. They're way.
Yes, and I think it is a very important decision to be made. Are women really included in this decision? I know many couples where it is just assumed, women work. Even my own mother and mother-in-law felt pressure from their husbands to stay at home. You are right, they and their families have to love with whatever decisions are made and no one else should have an opinion in it.
I understand God intends both men and women to evolve (as is the whole planet, I take notice) and that frequently we collectively take three steps forward and one back on our journey. Beyond that isn't important on a public scale. What is important to me is my relationship to all of it: God, my fellow humanity, even civilization ...and as a woman I have worked out the specifics of that well enough to suit me and my creator. But out of a sense of humility I wouldn't dare to stick my nose in the specifics of yours, nor would I welcome yours in mine. It is a personal, private matter that doesn't really lend itself to open debate well. It is as varied an answer, I would guess, as would be the question about the role of man too-- if asked in a world-wide public forum. What I think isn't going to have much bearing on anything here as it can only really matter to me in the long run, I think?
Yes, and I think it is a very important decision to be made. Are women really included in this decision? I know many couples where it is just assumed, women work. Even my own mother and mother-in-law felt pressure from their husbands to stay at home. You are right, they and their families have to love with whatever decisions are made and no one else should have an opinion in it.
You have pointed out a glitch in my thinking I haven't considered in that as couples sit and talk unfortunately the man has the final say in most decisions. I admit to having seen this scenario in a lot of couples and I really don't agree with it, but it was none of my business. So I assume that the role of women is defined many times by how much power the woman is GIVEN by the man. How often this arrangement works or leads to a happy life I'm not sure of, but I can see where men can get the idea as head of the household they must dominate everyone in it. Personally I'd like a more equitable relationship built on more than my spouse just obeying whatever orders I give.
Personally I'd like a more equitable relationship built on more than my spouse just obeying whatever orders I give.
See that's what we have and it works great. I was an independant person before I met my wife, I cooked, cleaned, sew, etc. She do all those things as well as help out with the "guy stuff" once in a while (mow the lawn, take out the trash, etc.). The best part is that we are on the exact same wavelength as it comes to our parenting/disciplining and that makes life a lot easier.
We make about the same money, have our own cars and our own bank accounts. There is nothing forcing us to stay together except for the fact that we love and respect each other and want to be together. In a relationship where the woman has never worked you often find that the woman will put up with quite bit of abuse because she would not know what to do if she ever left.
We make about the same money, have our own cars and our own bank accounts. There is nothing forcing us to stay together except for the fact that we love and respect each other and want to be together. In a relationship where the woman has never worked you often find that the woman will put up with quite bit of abuse because she would not know what to do if she ever left.
Your point is well taken Need, Its hard to work together when the man uses abusive means to run his house. Not a good way to treat a fellow human.
Solomon, under God's inspiration, records the character of a noble wife in Proverbs 31. A wise man and woman would do well to read it over and over again.
Solomon, under God's inspiration, records the character of a noble wife in Proverbs 31. A wise man and woman would do well to read it over and over again.
It looks like we have agreement and have put to bed a myth, that the bible gives man subjugation over women when the truth is more like man and woman should work together for the greater good of the family. I suspect that most of the holy books of other religions say the same thing but a lot is lost or interpreted for the sake of another's agenda. Thanks TEX.