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Old Jul 4, 2006, 06:43 PM
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Role of Women

Do you believe God really intended for women to carry attache cases and drive BMWs to work? Are they fulfilling the mission God designed them for by doing this?

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 05:59 PM   #31  
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The problem stems from a misundersatanding about what the Bible tell us about headship. Some women understand it as a license for a husband to abuse his wife so they consider it unjust. But a careful study of this principle of headship shows that it demands respect for the wife and a loving of her as one's own body.

Ephesians 5:28
So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.

Social factors have also contributed viewing of man's role as head of the household as negative. The article at the site below clarifies issues in relation to this.


Women's Liberation and the Bible
http://www.brfwitness.org/Articles/1975v10n3.htm
I don't always agree with scripture but what you have presented is so right on. Not only has it survived the test of time but is a statement that we as men need to look at and define ourselves by it!!
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Old Jul 9, 2006, 05:53 PM   #32  
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I do wish that the religious believers in our little comunity -- instead of lecturing us - would get on the the politicians and law makers and tell them the errors of their ways.

If they made businesses pay a (family) living wage to the main breadwinner, the other partner would then have the choice of being a house-wife/husband during the childrens' formative years, a role which has been under-rated and undermined for far too long.................

...................................and may your god go with you.

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That is an excellant idea Jonegy. That is the only way things would change. By people standing up for the change and going to government and pressuring government for the change. That is the only way things will change if everybody that knows how important a parent staying home is. People have to fight for that. Yes, Christians do need to be more assertive.

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I agree whole-heartedly that children should have their parents care for them. In my opinion what has happened has been like a domino effect. For one thing to work, the step infront of it has to be there.

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-a couple should be married (committed to eachother)
-realize that this is long-term and divorce is not an option (with the exception of abuse)
-have eachothers' best interests in mind always
-they should be in the same place in their lives, have similar goals, ideas, etc. and they need to be faithful to eachother
-don't give up so easy, no marriage is perfect, the honeymoon is short and takes a lot of work
-we need to work together. If you don't have eachother, who do you have?

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-when you have a family, realize that this is a job
-kids are work
-it's not about having a baby, it's about having a person
-know what your priorities are and have them straight.
-if you have this the rest is easy

I think it's important to put people first. I know a lot of people want things, and forget that is not what is important. We don't get to take that with us. We get our mind and our heart.

I don't know about women not working. I think that if your family needs more income then so be it. That is, money to meet your needs, not your wants. YOU have to answer for the way you have lived, no one else!


About this thing with the government offering some sort of assistance. I have the perfect idea. Maybe other countries have this, but I know they don't in Canada. The government should offer income-splitting. If my husband makes $65,000 a year he will pay more tax than if we both made $32,500. Now tell me that's not ridiculous. Families with one income should be able to split their income so they could keep more of the money they earn. I worked it out and if my husband and I were able to split, he would have got almost $10,000 more back on his income tax. WOW!!

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the role God intended for them to perform
Did God intend men to play around with virgins and leave them... Did God intend on men to cheat and abuse?

Did God intend for society to make it impossible to stay at home with a 'family' unit untact so that the children can be fed and nurtured???

Don't put is all on us women, please. We did not make life what it is all on our own!


In England, in the 1600, women were rated and treated on the same level as aminals, with no rights - and not even allowed to read the Bible - reading was a man's thing. Women, who at that time were caught reading were burned at the stake. I don't think we can afford to go back to those 'good ole days'.

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I agree that it should not be left up to any one person in the relationship. Each member has to give their 100%. I don't think it should be a situation where if you give, then I will give. We have to pull our own, there is no score, life is not fair. Be the best you can be and hopefully your partner will be too. Example: My husband has not changed a diaper in 10 years. We have had 4 children in that time. Some people have a very hard time with that. I do not. Vice versa, I hate making the top bunk bed up, so he takes that so I don't have to. I don't know if it evens out and I don't care. We help eachother and what we help eachother with changes depending on our needs. I notice people keeping score and people who count how much each spends. I do not agree with this. I know a lot of women who work so they don't have to ask to spend money. "His pay cheque, my pay cheque". Instead of "we are partners, everything is ours."

For what we are talking about to work you have to have spouses willing to support one another at home and at work.

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Did God intend men to play around with virgins and leave them... Did God intend on men to cheat and abuse?

Did God intend for society to make it impossible to stay at home with a 'family' unit untact so that the children can be fed and nurtured???

Don't put is all on us women, please. We did not make life what it is all on our own!


In England, in the 1600, women were rated and treated on the same level as aminals, with no rights - and not even allowed to read the Bible - reading was a man's thing. Women, who at that time were caught reading were burned at the stake. I don't think we can afford to go back to those 'good ole days'.
Chery, I agree we should not go back to a time when women where subjugated by their so-called husbands to serve them. The fact is that women are the heads of a lot of single households especially here in America. Not only do they work but have to raise children on their own. So if females MUST define their own roles I suggest that the Men who are offended by this do-something about it and stop putting women down for working outside the home and taking jobs that men should be doing! This argument fails to be valid given the female has been the one keeping family together and raising the kids, in many cases ALONE!!

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orange agrees: Yup, and the people who criticize single mothers who go to work are usually the same ones who criticize single mothers on welfare. Go figure!
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Old Jul 11, 2006, 05:33 AM   #38  
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Chery, I agree we should not go back to a time when women where subjugated by their so-called husbands to serve them. The fact is that women are the heads of a lot of single households especially here in America. Not only do they work but have to raise children on their own. So if females MUST define their own roles I suggest that the Men who are offended by this do-something about it and stop putting women down for working outside the home and taking jobs that men should be doing! This argument fails to be valid given the female has been the one keeping family together and raising the kids, in many cases ALONE!!
Exactly! Well done!
And its not only in America, its just the same in Europe.
Its everywhere.
Culture is changing, people are changing.
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Yes I think some men can be nurturers but no I don't think men were meant to be. I would like to add that not every woman is necessarily a nurturer either.

As far as the question at hand, I do think that men and women have specific roles that God had set up for them. Like everything else, I think there are exceptions to this rule. I think if it is possible women should stay at home wih their children.
I agree that men can be nurturers and women aren't necessarily a nurturer. However if you look at the insticts in men and women (overall), you would see that they do fit into these roles.

I do think this is what God wanted for us. I think it helps to bring order into our household and less chaos...as long as there is support and both parties are giving 100%.
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I agree that men can be nurturers and women aren't necessarily a nurturer. However if you look at the insticts in men and women (overall), you would see that they do fit into these roles.

I do think this is what God wanted for us. I think it helps to bring order into our household and less chaos...as long as there is support and both parties are giving 100%.
I agree on both points but couldn't comment.

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