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Do you believe God really intended for women to carry attache cases and drive BMWs to work? Are they fulfilling the mission God designed them for by doing this?
Talaniman, I don't think you will ever get it. You can't keep accomodating culture. The cause of many divorces is because men and women are not fulfilling their proper role in society.
I thought I asked some very valid questions to which I have not received answers as I would like to get it, if you can explain it. And the thing about not fulfilling proper roles being the main cause of divorce, I agree some what because I know for a fact no one wants to be told what to do with their life or be confined to some one else's idea of what is proper. I agree with NeedKarma when he says that we must change with the world as it changes. Your rigid thinking is okay in your house, but not in mine!
Obvously post #17 had some real good questions that one poster was unable to give answers to. For someone who has all the answers just came up with this reply ''Talaniman, I don't think you will ever get it. You can't keep accomodating culture. The cause of many divorces is because men and women are not fulfilling their proper role in society.'' Why could this poster not answer these questions?
What roles do you assign to single parent households with the divorce rate at 50%?
Can a man not be a helpmate or a nurturer?
Can a woman be a provider or spiritual leader?
If a woman has skills and talent and wanted to use them shouldn't a man support her?
What happens to these roles when the children leave the nest?
What happens to these roles when the man dies, or is disabled?
What happens to these roles if there are no children?
Should the woman's opinion be considered when these roles are defined ?
What should a man do if a woman wants to be more than just a helpmate?
In today's world what is it the man is defending his family against?
Maybe if they are repeated, the poster will relook at the questions really look through them and actually give an answer to them.
Your question IS Bible-based. And any attempts to answer it, that is not Biblical is not answering the question!
I had a daily devotional a few wks. ago from my pastor's liveprayer.com. I didn't store it, but I remember the gist of it.
God didn't want for a woman, specifically a married woman with children to be the breadwinner in the family. However, there were MANY exceptions where it was proper for the woman to work(outside of the home)
A single woman. A divorced or widowed woman and an extremely talented woman. These exceptions allow leeway in our present society for women to fulfill their needs to earn money even if they are married...and it is not outside of God's plan.
So I guess (even personally) the key words are " the main breadwinner" This way hopefully babies do not have to be in a nursery when they are newborns. We were able to wait till they were 18 months old each to put them in the general care of nurseries & babysitters. (had problems then too, but mostly minor ones.)
Your question IS Bible-based. And any attempts to answer it, that is not Biblical is not answering the question!
I had a daily devotional a few wks. ago from my pastor's liveprayer.com. I didn't store it, but I remember the gist of it.
God didn't want for a woman, specifically a married woman with children to be the breadwinner in the family. However, there were MANY exceptions where it was proper for the woman to work(outside of the home)
A single woman. A divorced or widowed woman and an extremely talented woman. These exceptions allow leeway in our present society for women to fulfill their needs to earn money even if they are married...and it is not outside of God's plan.
So I guess (even personally) the key words are " the main breadwinner" This way hopefully babies do not have to be in a nursery when they are newborns. We were able to wait till they were 18 months old each to put them in the general care of nurseries & babysitters. (had problems then too, but mostly minor ones.)
I appreciate your answer 31pumpkin, and if I may ask does GODS plan prevent a man from being a nurturer, or a helpmate to his working wife?
Tal, I know you didn't ask me but I would like to answer your question anyways. Yes I think some men can be nurturers but no I don't think men were meant to be. I would like to add that not every woman is necessarily a nurturer either.
As far as the question at hand, I do think that men and women have specific roles that God had set up for them. Like everything else, I think there are exceptions to this rule. I think if it is possible women should stay at home wih their children. I don't like the term "times have changed" because it lends to alot of excuses but I do agree that between society and the price of things in genera, it may not always be practical. My wife and I chose to have her stay home but that was a personal one. We have contemplated many times of her working part time but figured it wouldn't be the right time.
I am not quite sure why the divorce rate is the way it is but there are many reasons that I don't think anyone can put their finger on just one. If there is one reason it is probably pride between the partners of nto wanting to give up their rights. I will leave it at that.
Tal, I know you didn't ask me but I would like to answer your question anyways. Yes I think some men can be nurturers but no I don't think men were meant to be. I would like to add that not every woman is necessarily a nurturer either.
I agree with you there. We may have to be though for the sake of a healthy family.
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As far as the question at hand, I do think that men and women have specific roles that God had set up for them. Like everything else, I think there are exceptions to this rule. I think if it is possible women should stay at home wih their children. I don't like the term "times have changed" because it lends to alot of excuses but I do agree that between society and the price of things in genera, it may not always be practical. My wife and I chose to have her stay home but that was a personal one. We have contemplated many times of her working part time but figured it wouldn't be the right time
Again I agree as it is a personal choice between husband and wife.
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I am not quite sure why the divorce rate is the way it is but there are many reasons that I don't think anyone can put their finger on just one. If there is one reason it is probably pride between the partners of nto wanting to give up their rights. I will leave it at that
I appreciate your answer 31pumpkin, and if I may ask does GODS plan prevent a man from being a nurturer, or a helpmate to his working wife?
Nurturer? Aren't men nurturers when they raise a family?
Or a helpmate to his working wife? It doesn't say a very talented working wife is supposed to have a "bum" for a husband either. It isn't like "anything goes".
I think the more the maturity of Christian ( and maybe other religions as well)
the closer they follow God's principles
The problem stems from a misundersatanding about what the Bible tell us about headship. Some women understand it as a license for a husband to abuse his wife so they consider it unjust. But a careful study of this principle of headship shows that it demands respect for the wife and a loving of her as one's own body.
Ephesians 5:28
So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.
Social factors have also contributed viewing of man's role as head of the household as negative. The article at the site below clarifies issues in relation to this.
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