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Old Jul 4, 2006, 06:43 PM
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Role of Women

Do you believe God really intended for women to carry attache cases and drive BMWs to work? Are they fulfilling the mission God designed them for by doing this?

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 09:53 PM   #11  
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Do you believe God really intended for women to carry attache cases and drive BMWs to work? Are they fulfilling the mission God designed them for by doing this?



Both man and woman had the same mission.

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”


The mission given mankind is described in the following way.


Genesis 1:28
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Notice that God is speaking to both of them not just Adam.

The animals were to be taken care of, the earth gradually made into a global paradise, Eden would be the focal point from which it would spread, and the earth would be populated. Unfortunately both sinned, were barred from the Eden, and the transformation of earth into a paradise was put temporarily on hold.

This is clear from the following words:

Genesis 3: 17

....“ Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.

18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.

19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.”


In short both disqualified themseives to carry out that noble mission when they rebelled.

23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.


NKJV
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Old Jul 4, 2006, 09:53 PM   #12  
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The world has changed and what was good way back when may not be the way to deal with what is now. Yes you can blame the many things on the economy or the changing lifestyles that confront us but the fact remains that even tho there are many things and changes before us man and woman must still work together to raise the family and educate the children so they can in turn carry the human race to a better role. You can also look at the world and point to all kinds of bad things but to not see the good is not in my opinion a realistic view of the real world. As a leader of my family I think all young women be taught to not only love their family and raise their children but to also aspire to do all their ability and imagination allows them to do and most of all not to be subservient to anyone. My role as MAN is to love, respect, teach, inspire and encourage the very best of those under my wing. For that reason I disagree with the statement "Its time for men and women to assume their proper roles and to start anew" And just because a wife has the talents to be a lawyer AND a good wife and mother doesn't mean that the husband has abdicated his role as a spiritual leader and failed to treat their wives with love and respect. The opposite is true. This is NOT the world that BOAZ lived in and I doubt that Ruth would be any less a good wife if she did fly an F15. A real MAN is one that listens as well as advises, encourages, and loves ,guides as well as protects. You can blame the ills of the world on anything you want, but to return to the good old days of wifey with the hot meal waiting is ..........a little unrealistic if she has a masters in law! Does that intimidate you guys? Get over it! Just my humble opinion.
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I stated, that at least one parent should be at home with a child. Even in my workplace there is actually men that take parental leave, or maternity leave. To stay home. The wife then takes the role of working outside of the home. It is all individual choice. I do believe that society was a better place years ago. That is in the past and we have a new society. I do see it failing in many ways. At the same time like you said it is not all negative as well. About the statement about how the men and women need to be in their proper roles, well to each individual that role can be different. Depending on the situation. To have somebody say it is not the right role that is a matter of personal opinion or especially stems from religion beliefs. Which there is nothing wrong with having them. I for one, would like to see at least one parent at home for raising children and I do think it would make a difference in the future generation.

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My wife was working when we got married but quit to have our son and we talked and decide that even though we had a lot of choices for babysitting she wanted to stay home and raise our son which I had to agree with !00%. The next year brought my daughter and things worked out great. We didn't have a lot of money but we managed to stay within our budget and make ends meet so I have no regrets about not having a corvette, but I did have good well raised kids who are adults with children of their own. Yes every family has to decide how their household should go and how best their roles are to be filled. I try not to think what I do is any better than what any one else does though I do feel very strongly about a Person being all they can be. This new world that is quickly changing is scary but it is also exciting and challenging, I tend to be an optimist but I see a lot of good things that outweigh the bad, JUST me!
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Couldnt spread the love but wanted to say - Tal and Jesushelper you both state very good points and i agree with you both!
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Role of men:
. Spiritual leader
. Provider
. Defender

Moses, Daniel, Caleb, Joshua, King David, and, of course, Jesus are good examples for men.

Role of women:
. Helpmates
. Nurturers

Sarah, Naomi, Ruth, Esther, and Proverbs 31 are good examples for women.
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Role of men:
. Spiritual leader
. Provider
. Defender

Moses, Daniel, Caleb, Joshua, King David, and, of course, Jesus are good examples for men.

Role of women:
. Helpmates
. Nurturers

Sarah, Naomi, Ruth, Esther, and Proverbs 31 are good examples for women.
What roles do you assign to single parent households with the divorce rate at 50%?
Can a man not be a helpmate or a nurturer?
Can a woman be a provider or spiritual leader?
If a woman has skills and talent and wanted to use them shouldn't a man support her?
What happens to these roles when the children leave the nest?
What happens to these roles when the man dies, or is disabled?
What happens to these roles if there are no children?
Should the woman's opinion be considered when these roles are defined ?
What should a man do if a woman wants to be more than just a helpmate?
In today's world what is it the man is defending his family against?

Society today has blurred the traditional role of women and men but I think if man and women work together for the good of family the benefits far out weigh the consequences.

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orange agrees: Very good points. Not to mention, I don't appreciate being told what my roles as a woman should and should not be!!
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Talaniman, I don't think you will ever get it. You can't keep accomodating culture. The cause of many divorces is because men and women are not fulfilling their proper role in society.

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Krs disagrees: talaminan gets it quite alright actually. He see's the issues that arise within a relationship and trys to work out how to fix them as a couple!
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Today's woman is, more than ever, accomodating culture and the cost to the family and society is huge. Family problems are getting worse, rather than better. I feel if women would study the Bible, understand the role God intended for them...
Sadly reading the bible won't fix the problem with families. The problem exists because americans are caught in a nasty consumerism/materialistic downward spiral as it relates to the family. I have no problems with women in the workforce, in fact I love well-educated, smart women. The problem exists when both parents put the parenting on the back burner in order to work like dogs to have a McMansion and a 42" plasma tv. Yes you can be a woman, work and be a great mother. It's all about priorities and balance. The world today is not liek it was 2000 years ago nor is it like the days of our parents where the man had a job for life with a great pension - we adjust to the times.

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With reference to Post #16, there is one word that sums up this view perfectly [SIZE="3"]antiquated !![/SIZE]

[SIZE="1"]Tx please try and join the rest of us in the 21st Century.[/SIZE]

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talaniman agrees: Nicely put!!!
Krs agrees: i agree
orange agrees: Exactly!!! Even many Orthodox Jewish women, who have several children, work full time! It's actually quite common among religious Jews now and necessary given the economy.
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