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Asked Mar 2, 2011, 01:29 PM — 124 Answers
I happened upon another question about a haunting wherein many of the answers emphasized the necessity of using Jesus, Allah, or God's name to defeat evil spirits-since humans don't have the power to fight off spirits. Someone said that wherever Jesus is, demons are not.

I am fascinated with this topic-whether it's real or folklore-and the answers that I cited above really have me wondering about things such as stigmata and possession (stuff I've seen in movies). Does that stuff actually happen and if so why does it sometimes happen to religious people (if divine authority drives away demons, how are they able to possess the religious)?

I know some people don't believe in hauntings and spirits, but my question applies to both reality and folklore-so any thoughts would be great. Thanks! (if this belongs in more of a discussion forum-I apologize)

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Mar 19, 2011, 03:12 PM
Ah geez, I just got called a female in another post. My mistake.
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Mar 19, 2011, 03:58 PM
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Ah geez, I just got called a female in another post. My mistake.
No, alty said she thinks SA is female
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Mar 19, 2011, 04:09 PM


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no, alty said she thinks SA is female
SA is female.
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Mar 19, 2011, 04:10 PM
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Just going to add something. I'm pretty sure Southamerica is female.

Let's not argue about Gods and whose is the best, there's no way anyone can win that argument because everything is based on faith, not fact.
Hi Altenweg,

In the ancient world it was easy to decide whose God was the best. If my country invaded and defeated your country then it stood to reason that my God was stronger than your God. However, it only remained true until some other country defeated me then our God was out of favour.

But seriously.........I think there is one man who can come close to answering Southamerica's original question. That person being the author of the Holographic Universe. As I am not good at summarizing books I wasn't looking forward to explaining his ideas. The I came across this website. Michael Talbot explains his theory on screen.

The Secret Sun: Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe (UPDATED)

The holographic model can account for just about all paranormal activity if, and it is a big if - the universe can be looked at in terms of a hologram. Naturally most scientists would reject any such idea and the whole idea could be dismissed as being total fantasy except that it has the backing of one of Einstein's associates David Bohm who later on became famous in the area of quantum physics .The other significant figure of the time was psychologist Karl Pribram. Talbot uses their ideas very constructively in his book.

If anyone has a spare half hour it is well worth the look and listen. Other than that the book is well written and not difficult to follow.


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Mar 19, 2011, 04:59 PM
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Ah geez, I just got called a female in another post. My mistake.
No, alty said she thinks SA is female
Oh, I know...I was just saying that misgendering seems to be going around or something.
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Mar 19, 2011, 05:07 PM
Worth watching. Very interesting and at the very least a conversation piece. Thanks for the link.
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Mar 19, 2011, 05:10 PM
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Oh, I know...I was just saying that misgendering seems to be going around or something.
It happens all the time. Sometimes it's really hard to determine whether someone is a male or female just by their posts or username.

I've been called "he" so many times I finally decided to make it clear by my avatar. Even with my avatar I still get the occasional he. No biggie. I know I'm female, that's what counts.
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Mar 20, 2011, 12:57 AM
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Worth watching. Very interesting and at the very least a conversation piece. Thanks for the link.

When I read the book about 10 years ago I though it was an interesting piece of science fiction. I mean, the universe being a hologram and that sort of stuff.

Apparently science fiction is again a poor cousin to reality. I read an article in a scientific journal or magazine somewhere that a scientist at FermiLab (a particle accelerator in the U.S) was intending to conduct some experiments to see if in fact the universe is a hologram. Mind boggling stuff indeed.

There exists the possibility that we are not as 3D or solid as we like to think we are. Those entities occupying the spiritual world (assuming there is one) would at least be aware of this.

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Mar 20, 2011, 06:09 AM
Oh I have very little doubt that they are more aware of how universe is put together than we do.
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Mar 20, 2011, 09:08 AM
Hello! I have been MIA the last couple days. My weekends are always busy .

I know that bringing up religion AND ghosts in one question is bound to bring up a lot of discussion and tangents, and I'm okay with that. I do like reading about how different people view life/afterlife/God.

I've gathered that there isn't a lot in the folklore of the paranormal that would explain why a pious person would become possessed by a demon. It could be explained by a religious person's ability to believe in something unexplainable (e.g., God) versus an atheist/other who would find a more scientific explanation (psychology). It could be that a possessed religious person isn't genuine in their faith-and a demon would find a person with a professed opposition to Satan as a bigger target. Whatever is real and folklore, this thread has been interesting.

I would love to read more friendly conversation/debate about this and its tangents!

I am a female :-D

TUT, thanks for your link, I will look at it soon.
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