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Okay I am a Wiccan and I am proud, when someone asks me a question about Wicca, I calmly explain an answer (unless they are one of those people who ask me and then tell me, no matter what the answer i give, that I'm going to hell, which is pointless cause Wiccan's don't believe in hell, well most of us don't anyways). But one day I was having a decent and calm talk of religion with one of my best friends and I asked a question that bugged me all the time when I was Morman, that applies to all religion with a bible. How do you know... that what is in that bible is really true? I mean the Christian bible has been rewritten and translated so many times that how do you know what it says is true and that someone who messed with it did not change something cause they didn't like what God said? Same with the Morman bible, the man who wrote it was the "only" on to see what God said and wrote it in a book. So basically, how do you know what you're reading is what it was supposed to be and was truely left unchanged from gods word?
Well my friend got all definsive and told me that it just didn't happen. I said but how do you know? These books were rewritten and translated by "the sinful hands of man" and did God not have a follower who betrayed him? How do you know for sure what your reading is true. Again she just got all mad and yelled at me and said that it JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN! Another girl in my class heard the convo and got all mad at me too. I didn't diss the religion and I didn't say anything mean, I just asked a simple question that had bugged me even before I became Wicca.
Why can't someone just say. "I don't know... I just need to believe it's true" or something like that or just say plainly "I don't know" or "I never thought about it", that's what I say when I don't have an answer. So why the do people always insist on yelling?
christianity is truth....to us
atheism is truth.......to karma (or is it the great spaghetti monster? )
wicca is truth...........to you
ya know what i mean?
religious tolerance is important.
you cant say flat statements of "this is the truth", because, thats saying "i know more about what really is the truth than you do" which is a very arrogant thing to say to another person.
theres what you believe, and yes, there is the truth, but we have no way of really knowing the truth, till we die or whatever, and guess what? thats what faith is for.
biwiccan, im curious, (forgive me my ignorance) what is wicca? i never really heard of it.
Nicely said Cal. People shouldn't go around damning others to a fiery place for eternity just becasue they are not like them. In my view religion is a personal thing, kept to one's self.
yes, you have a personal relationship with god, or whoever, or whatever, or just with....you and the world.
you can share that with others, but not by "preaching to the heathens" but by just....trying to apply the good teachings to yourself, so they can shine through, that is the better way to share your beliefs, by bettering the world by letting your beliefs improve who you are.
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tchalen, yes we believe in a truth, but, say i believed in the giant spaghetti monster (hehe)
that does not make it the one big truth
i could be wrong, and even if i believe with all my heart, others are still gunna believe different things, and we are not entitled to say that our belief is best.
tchalien disagrees: Christians are called to share the TRUTH with others. If you feel offended, you have to ask yourself why?
Are you one of those annoying ones that go door to door and preach to everyone? How would you like it if everyone who thought the had the Truth came to your house and tried to convert you?
It is true that Christians should let the love of Christ shine in their lives, which is attractive to most people. We are also called to "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19. We have been given a great gift, eternal life in heaven with God, and we don't want others to miss out on this gift. A lot of people get confused about Christians. We don't want to tell you that you are going to Hell... We want you to go to heaven. There is only one way to heaven, through believe in the one and only son of God, JESUS.
Well Cal Wicca (also known as witch craft) is a nature based religion, alot of people say it is satan worship (due to the fact that one of the gods worshiped in the religion is Pan and he is a horned god). It is a belief of many gods and who you believe in depends on you (there are those who believe in the egyptian gods and those who believe in the greek or celtic). Above all though there is the Mother Goddess, the mother of all life, she has no specific name as her name veries in your belief (for me it is Demeter). We preform rituals on certain nights (Esbats which are the nights of worshipping the mother and the moon and we have Sabbats which are the holidays), there is no sacrafice, which is another misconception. The way a ritual works is you cast the circle, invite the gods to your rite, and invocate the elements. From there you do as you wish (alot of wiccas will do tarot cards, scrying, and/or meditating in the circle). There are also spells that you can cast (no they are not magic), you find herbs and stones that will do certain things, find candles of certain colors that represent what you want, and write a rhyme, the spell, and you go through with it. It's more of a karma thing that anything else.
Wiccans believe in the rule of three fold (if you do something bad it will come back three times worse to you, if you do something good then it will come back three times as good back to you), and the only written rule is The Wiccan Rede written long ago and known by many wiccas the author of it is unknown. The whole rede is sumed up in 8 words "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will" basically do what you want as long as you don't hurt anyone in your proceedings. It's a very alive religion as there is no rules accept the rede and you make the religion your own. You write your own rituals and believe what you want. Most wiccans don't believe in hell (which is why it's so dumb when people tell us to go to hell). If you got any questions just ask, I can go pretty in depth about the rituals as I just wrote my first ritual for the full moon esbat that I'm performing tonight (the full moon is actually tomorrow but I work till 11:30 and there's alot of preperation and there's no way I will be able to stay awake that long).
[url="http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/../members/tchalien.html"]Are you one of those annoying ones that go door to door and preach to everyone? How would you like it if everyone who thought the had the Truth came to your house and tried to convert you?
I live my life in such a way that people know I am a Christian, by looking at my life. I do speak the Truth in love to those that will listen. I welcome those that come to my house trying to "convert" me. I love the opportunity to hear what they have to say, and then I share with them the Truth that comes from GOD.
There you go again with "the truth" there is not a certainty that that is "the truth". If you would put a simple "I believe" infront of it it makes a different. State your beliefs as much as you want, I am like you in that I listen and share mine, but when I state my beliefs I do my best to state them as a belief not a fact as there are no facts on gods or where we will go until we die and discover the truth. I also try not to state it like a fact as it does offend some people.
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