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Old Oct 17, 2007, 12:09 PM
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Misconceptions about religion

Okay I am a Wiccan and I am proud, when someone asks me a question about Wicca, I calmly explain an answer (unless they are one of those people who ask me and then tell me, no matter what the answer i give, that I'm going to hell, which is pointless cause Wiccan's don't believe in hell, well most of us don't anyways). But one day I was having a decent and calm talk of religion with one of my best friends and I asked a question that bugged me all the time when I was Morman, that applies to all religion with a bible. How do you know... that what is in that bible is really true? I mean the Christian bible has been rewritten and translated so many times that how do you know what it says is true and that someone who messed with it did not change something cause they didn't like what God said? Same with the Morman bible, the man who wrote it was the "only" on to see what God said and wrote it in a book. So basically, how do you know what you're reading is what it was supposed to be and was truely left unchanged from gods word?

Well my friend got all definsive and told me that it just didn't happen. I said but how do you know? These books were rewritten and translated by "the sinful hands of man" and did God not have a follower who betrayed him? How do you know for sure what your reading is true. Again she just got all mad and yelled at me and said that it JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN! Another girl in my class heard the convo and got all mad at me too. I didn't diss the religion and I didn't say anything mean, I just asked a simple question that had bugged me even before I became Wicca.

Why can't someone just say. "I don't know... I just need to believe it's true" or something like that or just say plainly "I don't know" or "I never thought about it", that's what I say when I don't have an answer. So why the do people always insist on yelling?

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 08:32 AM   #51  
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Can I ask you a question BiWiccanAndProud?
What is it about Wicca?
People are drawn to a belief system for a reason.
What drew you to Wicca?
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 08:41 AM   #52  
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Okay you are hearing me all wrong tchailen I am saying that everyone can believe what they want but NOTHING is fact on beliefs. I simply was pointing out that when you mention "the truth of god" you speak of it like it's a fact I was trying to ask you for the curtosy to put "I believe in" when you talk about your religion when you don't put that it makes you sound arrogant like your religion is the only true one and no one has a say. I was merely correcting your grammar cause you seem like a nice person and I didn't want people to get the wrong impression of you cause again... from other threads I've seen you on you seem like a nice person. Notice when Cal asked about Wicca I stated everything in the format that it is mine and other wiccans beliefs not the absolute word.

Beetlejuice again you state it like a fact "There is a god out there who created us..." that... is... not... fact. That is your belief, that is what you believe, so please state it as such not like it's a fact. Unlike with tchailen I can't tell if you are meaning it to sound that way or if it is unintentional.
I understand where you are coming from however i know it as a fact that God exist, that is because i have had personal encounters with him. He showed himself to me when i called upon him and i was at my lowest point. I was not even a christain but i had hit such a rock bottom i had no where else to turn. People had told me about jesus before and i thought it was just a bunch of reliogious B.S. But in my lowest point i called upon God and said if you are real help me. Jesus himself showed up and saved from the distuction i was headed for. I was adicted to drugs and could not do shake the adiction, i almost died untill i called upon the Him. From that day i had that encounter i have never toughed drugs and have zero desire for them. He changed me instantly and i know he exists because of what he did for me. No one can tell me otherwise because they dont know what i have been through and what God brought me out of. I was not a christian but when i cried out in my lowest moment, it was not Buddah, or muhamed or krishna who showed up but it was Johovah Jesus Christ who saved me and that is how i know for a fact he lives and his word is absolute truth, and i walk with Him every day, i talk to him everyday. And no one will ever undertand untill they experience it for themselves.
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And no one will ever undertand untill they experience it for themselves.
Most of us won't because most of us don't hit a 'rock bottom' episode in our lives. We seem to manage very well without a deity watching over us.
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Major Religions Ranked by Size

More than 1/3 of the worlds population is Christian. Making it the largest religion in the world.
In Asia, Christianity is spreading rapidly in China and South Korea.[5]. In the case of South Korea, Christianity has grown so fast that South Korea is now the second largest exporter of Christian missionaries, after the U.S - i got this right out of a secular statisical website.
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You're looking at it the wrong way: 77% of the population on this planet is not christian. Not only that but your fundamentalist take on it is an even lower percentage.
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Most of us won't because most of us don't hit a 'rock bottom' episode in our lives. We seem to manage very well without a deity watching over us.
Good for you. But for some of us who dont have power over life's circumstances, we have someone who can has the absolute power to pull us out of some of the horrible things life can through at us.
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Good for you. But for some of us who dont have power over life's circumstances, we have someone who can has the absolute power to pull us out of some of the horrible things life can through at us.
Actually if you scavenge just this discussion board you'll notice that nearly all of the 'bible-thumper' types have a past of alcohol or drug abuse or a history of neglectful/abusive parenting. If you need something to pull you out of that then that's great, but don't come out yelling that's it's the only truth in the universe to us that manage our lives very well on our own.
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You're looking at it the wrong way: 77% of the population on this planet is not christian. Not only that but your fundamentalist take on it is an even lower percentage.

99.9999999999999% of people dont believe in what YOU believe so whats your point?
so i suppose your right?
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It doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong. What matters is that I don't go around saying I have the "TRUTH" and you are going to hell.

Are you seriously choosing a religion because it's the most popular? I really don't care what you choose just keep it to yourself and let others have theirs, in peace.
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Actually if you scavenge just this discussion board you'll notice that nearly all of the 'bible-thumper' types have a past of alcohol or drug abuse or a history of neglectful/abusive parenting. If you need something to pull you out of that then that's great, but don't come out yelling that's it's the only truth in the universe to us that manage our lives very well on our own.
Like i said good for you buddy. i suppose you dont need a doctor if you are not sick. But life is funny, you will one day find yourself in a situation beyond you control. but hey No matter what you say My God is the one and only true God and he only reveals Himself to those who are humble enough to admitt they dont have all the answers to life. Jesus said he came to save the lost. I was lost and now i am found. Praise be to God!! for saving me and changing me. I am truely grateful to Him and because of it i will serve him all the days of my life and shout on the roof top that He is Lord and savior!! Woohoo!!
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