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Jul 10, 2005, 11:06 AM
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I want to understand the difference between Islam and Judaism, there roots between the children of Abraham, who is the founder of all 3 faiths (Judaism, Chriostianity and Islam) to one God Almighty, and the Ka'Baa..
Can someone explain what Isaac and Jacob have to do with these roots since they both are the children of the same Father, Abraham and about the Ka'Baah,
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Sep 22, 2005, 08:38 AM
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1 Timothy 6:20-21
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Sep 22, 2005, 08:54 AM
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These links give a wide opinion and proof of the hypocrisy practiced with a Talmud and are just a fraction of the information about them, most of the links in the Talmud's Defense are basically tricky and not straight forward in admitting the texts.
Christians against the Talmud http://www.christusrex.org/www2/talm...ud-exposed.htm
Muslims and the Talmud http://www.radioislam.org/talmud/
Fasciest and Nazis also have found a medium to attack all semitic speaking peoples ( not just jews) http://groups.msn.com/Mishpocha/thetalmudpart1.msnw
This one defends the Talmud but you can read for yourself how the writer David Madison also admits to many things as he goes on. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
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CLAIM --> Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
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It actually states that a Jew who has converted to a pagan worship and is causing trouble to his fellow Jews may be left to die and one may abstain from giving him aid at the time of his need.
It should be noted that Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai did actually say, elsewhere in the Talmud, "Even the best of the goyim (gentiles) should all be killed", which seems to be re-hashed in this alleged quote. It should be noted that his statement is the opinion of just one person, the Talmud does not endorse it and he said this under the most extreme circumstances - after his friends and teachers had been persecuted, tortured and eventually murdered by the Romans in the Bar Kochbar revolt (135 CE). E.S./ David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)[/SIZE]
another Jewish site on the Talmud http://www.mideastweb.org/jewreligion.htm
Example
s the Talmud kept secret from Gentiles?
The Talmud and other Jewish books are not kept secret from anyone. The Talmud was written in Aramaic and recorded in a sort of telegraphic style that requires extensive exegesis and study for good understanding. Regardless of religion, people who do not have this background will find it very difficult to understand, even if they understand Hebrew, which is somewhat similar to Aramaic. However, there are English translations, and large parts of the Talmud in translation have been placed on the Web
Are Jews descended from the Khazars?
The late Arthur Koestler speculated that European (Ashkenazy) Jews are all descended from a central Asian tribe, the Khazars, that converted to Judaism en-masse. Antisemites and anti-Zionists have used this theory to claim that Ashkenazy Jews have no right to the State of Israel. Subsequent research has shown that the claim that Ashkenazy Jews descended from Khazars is very doubtful. At different times, many tribes did convert to Judaism, including Arabian tribes the kingdom of Yemen and the Khazars, and some may have intermarried with "original" Jews. Similarly, many Jews converted voluntarily or by coercion to Christianity or Islam. The best evidence indicates that Jews dispersed throughout Europe from Rome. There were Jewish communities in France in the dark ages evidently. Other Ashkenazy Jews are descended from Spanish (Sephardic) Jews who were force to leave Spain in 1492. Genetic evidence indicates that European Jews are probably closer to Palestinian and Syrian Arabs than to central Asians who are partly descended from the Khazars; see articles here and here for example. In any case, the claims of a people to nationhood are almost never based on genetics or "race." Nobody claims that all the French are descended from ancient Gauls, or that all the British are descended from the Celts and Picts. When Americans talk about "'our' forefathers," the 'our' doesn't usually exclude the generations of immigrants who came after the Mayflower settlers. Today's Arab Palestinians are not all descended from ancient Canaanites and Philistines. Some are converted Jews. Some are descended from Arab families who arrived with various conquerors. Whatever the merits the genetic arguments, claims that anyone has no right to a country because they are not racially "pure" are racist claims, and identify the people making those claims as racists. |
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Sep 22, 2005, 09:09 PM
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| T4L & G4-450 & The S When you drink from poisoned wells, you cannot speak in purity. That is a simple law that God has spoken.
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Sep 22, 2005, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by G4-450 Yeah, i can not find anything that says Islam or Muslims hate other religions, i can agree with the fact that they share what the Koran says when i ask them though., and that is simple.
1- Does not matter what religions you want to fallow after Abraham's, as long as you do good and remember meeting God on the last day.
2- But once you know the story and you prefer another religion, your reasons will be your loss to other people and there society for choosing them over Gods religion, which means submit to his will.
Because the story is that people made these religions after Abraham.
This is what they say, and it sounds completely opposite from the medias.
For example: Judaism is based on the Tora, the old testament in the bible.
Yet: The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book, they consider it more holy then the Tora AKA old testament in the bible. Christ and even Mohammed condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.. (Mark 7:1-13)The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God.
I can go on...but orthodox jews practice all 660+ commandments and not just the 10 we all heard of, these above are some of them.
So these certain leaders of the scribes did the same thing to Mohammed that they did to Jesus when they met him, not that they are the same people, but people who consider there books the holiest thing on the planet.
This makes Islam look clean if you ask me, the only draw back is racism has its roots in the Talmud., if you read it online places you will see.
Judaic history, remember, are only one of the 12 tribes and where 14 Generations after Abraham, according to the Gospel MARK 1.
So, Islam is the only religion in history of of allowed other religions to live under there administration., this is why i am posting all this, i can not believe the whole U.S. war thing has anything to do with Islam other then sharing the wealth with arab sheiks who rose the prices after getting Sadam out of the way because he started to deal with Russia after all those years Osama worked for the CIA in Afghanistan to get them out of the picture.
But the one thing that strikes me as clear propaganda is when you say anything about anyone been Jewish, its anti Semitic, yet arabs are very Semitic and Judaism is only a religion, the claims to both rites are false and invented.
I still think people should have a second look at who is creating all the real problems and why on this planet., these people do not belong to any group, and they can be anyone, even your kids. |
Why try to pass of the acadmic work of another as your own?
Check this: www.mideastweb.org/jewreligion.htm
Is it plagiarism or coincidence? Whatever it is, it explains why you cannot respond to questions it raises in your respondees posts. You do not know your subject and that puts you at a grave disadvantage, also explaiing why you have to change to another ground of attack with each post.
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Sep 23, 2005, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisl 1 Timothy 6:4
1 Timothy 6:20-21
Leave it to Paul to give inspired advice about these situations!
Chris | Well
We do not need to leave anything to to Saul or AKA Paul who also teached another Gospel besides Jesus., but that is not the tpoic here in order to see the clear proof of how some people abuse the scriptures to justify crimes against humanity., this tpoic is Islam and Judaism.
All these racists who commit there crimes are usually disguised as members of organizations, governments or simply as practitioners of the Muslim Christian or Jewish faiths.
It has not been a surprise how the pioneers of racism who made there records in the Talmud's became the question for Morganstine here to demonstrate if he is not a racist, apparently he is for he knows how to avoid the very question everyone asks about the TALMUD, which is if he agrees to TALMUDIC texts stating Jews have the rights above the law over non jews.
So far, he did indeed refer to arabs (arab jews as well) as prime suspects who carry out terrorism, but he also added that christianity came from judaism and his ideology about arabs or muslims have no history in these flocks as he himself called muslims arabs instead of seen the faiths rather then there ethnicity or culture, in simply words, he does not recognize ethnic Jews as Jews, which they originally all where (muslims and jews) that simple, he is racist and claims he is not while yet doing it.
So there are no word battles here, it simple, he is been racist about non Jews, and doing everything racist do about it by avoiding the question.
Which again is: Does he believe jews have the rights above the law over non Jews? it is certainly this way in Israel today. |
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Sep 23, 2005, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Morganite Why try to pass of the acadmic work of another as your own?
Check this: www.mideastweb.org/jewreligion.htm
Is it plagiarism or coincidence? Whatever it is, it explains why you cannot respond to questions.
I am Unmasked!
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.  | Morganite, you still did not respond to a simple question which ofcourse reflects every single thing you accuses others of, and you only indicated anti semiticism by clearly expressing human trend beliefs as if there are no arab Jews in the world and should not be when they all where once just semitic peoples (arabs).
you continue to reverse everything your doing on others which clearly shows the trickery of a pathological liar and the biblical Satan.
Take some advise from me, when i told you i expected more hurricanes you made accusations then, but is it happening?
RITA is here now.
God knows well who is speaking from biblical education with the lessons and evidence of his signs and God also knows well who is a idol worshiper, self righteous slave and a liar as well seeking to misguide others with false hopes and trickery.
So i also predict terrible things to people who lie about God and say he is only the God of Israel and the Jews., and what God created Jews that could not create the rest of humanity Morganstien?
You decide who you want on your side in this life or the hear after, you know well what i am saying, and even if you get passed people in this life i know your gonna have to deal with the truth in the hear after like Noa, Moses and Jesus spoke about.
One thing for sure is that you refuse to comment on the talmud and the human trend of racism at its extremist., that your to proud to lie about .
[SIZE=1]And by the way the links you posted have been debated and presented, especially the anti christ anti jesus Talmudic sayings which jews claim they where talking about another Jesus and mother Mary who had a son with out a father who they called a Harlot aka whore.
Again also with the claims that its anti semitic to ask when Hebrew again was not at all a spoken compleate language until 1945, please prove it if i am wrong rather then using false historical lies christians do not understand becuase allot do not look at the old testament, aka TORAH.
And i will tell you what is anti Semitic, its when white Jews claim ethic Jews are converts or impostors while yet claiming they are from the middle east to christians using the jesus figure as a European image., did yo know that there are arab jews and Israeli muslims as well?
nice try though for a liar in disguised as a non jew like you with the softy touch., you have to be RACIST to support the anti semitics of the Talmud and allthe reverse blaim games about it after has been clearly presented to you. BAD un semitic Jew you are. [/SIZE] |
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Nov 17, 2008, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by G4-450 Very confusing indeed,
i can not say that muslims hate other religions, but they certainly state that they hate polytheists, at-least that was what i read the Kabaah Abraham built was about.
But what is more confusing is that people tend to believe in these religions with racial discrimination.
For example,.
Judaism is a religion, Islam is a religion, Christianity is a religion and even hinduism is a religion, but Hinduism is a polytheists religion., While Abraham is the line of One Allmighty God and the kabaa was to establish a non polytheist religion, is that correct?
But, we had Adolph Hitler who called the jews a race, and the U.S. Government shocked many jews by claiming them as a ethnic minority.
All sound like polythiests opinions too.
And now there are even more people confused about one God, and many seem to want to have there own personal God around to justify what they really worship, which could be power, money, greed..
i still do not get where the muslims come in as the enemy here if they are not polytheists., atleast the most part of who pratices correctly.,
Yet, maybe they are the enemies of thee global consumer market and at the least the undesirables to it all.
Would it be safe to say that polytheists are people who always put material things between themselves and others, god's enemies?
Not the jews, christians or Muslims., just who ever is a polythiest..? | im kiara and i was wondering how to write my name in arabic symbolls  |
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Nov 17, 2008, 07:13 PM
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| how tha hell do i write my name in ARABIC im confused |
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