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Okay, on the thread of reincarnation. Another member brought up an excellant point about intolerance. I was the one that started the thread of reincarnation and it went off topic. Which is expected I guess, but instead of continuing there I think this heading from another member is an excellant way to start a new discussion.
What is your definition of intolerance? How does intolerance effect our society?
Should intolerance be considered a sin?
Have you contributed yourself personally to a intolerant society, or have you did your best to be tolerant to all beliefs, to all life styles to all peoples, all cultures?
My personal answer is the intolerance, is the belief that somebody beliefs are supperiour to somebody elses. Intolerance actually creates racism of many kinds. Intolerance I believe creates uprising, wars, fights, murders, and much more. I have done my best to show my open mindness to all beliefs, all religions, all peoples, all countries, and all lifestyles. I am not a judge, nor will I ever be. There are some people who say they are right and others are wrong. That their beliefs, because they are different do not matter. I think respect, acceptance and pure love for everybody is the true belief. LOVE, creates Peace, Acceptance, Forgiveness, and so much more. Intolerance creates HATE. What world do I want to live in. I want to live in a world with peace and love. As long as others are so intolerant, even though they are teaching about their belief in God, as long as others are doing it by they are right and you are wrong. As long as they step on other peoples toes to make a point, as long as they are not open minded to others and get hateful when others do not have the same belief. They are going to be the ones that are responsible for turning other people away from God. God will in my opinion and according to the kings James bible will hold those people accountable, the people who are responsible of turning people away from God.
So for all those out there who like to judge others, tell them that their belief is wrong, for personally attacking somebody because of differing beliefs. You are teaching everybody else that hey, we do not want to be part of your religion because of the way you put people down, the way you treat others beliefs, the hate that you spew, the nastiness that you dish out. Your god is not the god that I believe in.
The tolerance of all beliefs regardless of their consequeuences would create a lawless society.
That is a "baby out with the bathwater" argument and distinctly NOT what I am advocating. There is a huge difference between tolerating ALL beliefs and tolerating all religious beliefs. It is slyly suggesting that other religious beliefs (apart from the one you believe in, of course) utterly lack a moral code, which is patently and prejudiciously incorrect.
That is a "baby out with the bathwater" argument and distinctly NOT what I am advocating. There is a huge difference between tolerating ALL beliefs and tolerating all religious beliefs. It is slyly suggesting that other religious beliefs (apart from the one you believe in, of course) utterly lack a moral code, which is patently and prejudiciously incorrect.
Couldnt it spread it Val.. but i agree quite rightly.
I honestly see nothing wrong with any religion, Its the nuts who do bad things in their Gods' name that make me mad. The funny part is that every religion on earth has gone thru the holier than thou thing and persecuted somebody who would not bow to their will. Thats' why I deal with people and not their religion. And if I see they are nuts I leave them alone too.
The Bible tells" us" that it is impossible to please God without faith. He also says that there ARE outsiders. In the Book these are the unbelievers. So how would God be pleased by people just choosing any doctrine to live by? Or by their own?
God gave us the power of the Holy Spirit, with the spiritual armor to ward off any unclean spiritual attacks. To agree with anything but is unfruitful & possibly destructive. I won't.
Even believers worship & serve the Lord differently. So, so it is with the secular population. All entitled to their opinions.
I believe there's only one true God, & one messiah. If you believe in another religion or cult, all I have to say is show me the miracles this deity or man has done in your life. That would be something worth listening to, instead of just tolerating words that don't describe any self-sacrifice, worship or service.
I believe there's only one true God, & one messiah. If you believe in another religion or cult, all I have to say is show me the miracles this deity or man has done in your life. That would be something worth listening to, instead of just tolerating words that don't describe any self-sacrifice, worship or service.
Since you put it that way, let me ask what miracles your diety has done in your life?
My view of a deity is such that he would want to be worshipped, but would recognize the fact that people are different since he made us that way. Therefore, he would provide different ways to be worshipped.
The fact that most religions have a similar set of ethics. That some are built on others and that some have similar mythologies lends credance to that viewpoint. This leads to being tolerant of others chosen methods of worship.
I look not at what god or religion a person choose to follow but at whether the person adheres to the generally accepted ethical code of behavior that transcends most religions.
Scot we are on the same page and I'll add words are useless unless you listen to them and some words get lost in actions that are opposite the words. The path I try to follow is my way of using the free will that God gave me to be a good human and love my fellow man even though I don't agree with him or his actions.
I believe intolerance of anothers religon or spiritual belief is the cause of many hate groups, wars and negative energy that harms our world peace. We are not to judge each other, that is for God to do. Why do we feel we have the right to be intolorent of another's belief? God did not say "Judge not that ye be not judged, except for religious beliefs".
I was raised going to a Christian church, I believe in God, I believe in Jesus. I do not believe in organized religion. I believe God created everyone. I do not know why there are many religions, many beliefs, all of whom have so many spiritual leaders that are awesome. There is a reason for all of us. I have read many of their teachings and got far more from them about leading a spititual life than from my minister.
Do you think being intolerant of other religions is being ignorant of the knowledge of other religions. Not meaning you need to change religions, but to understand other religions opens your eyes to understand them. There are good people in all beliefs, to be intolerant of someone because they do not believe as you do, does not seem to be living the path God would have you live. Jesus was not intolerant of nonbelievers.
I have to say since I studied some other beliefs and read teachings of great spiritual leaders, I feel I have come to know God better and feel closer to him and feel freer than I felt going to church each Sunday. Some will judge me for that, as that is not how I was raised to believe, but it is how I FEEL, and it makes me feel good. I no longer fear God. I have no animosity in my heart for anyone. It is very hard for me to be angry with anyone. If I do have anger it leaves my quickly. I know in my heart, for me, I am on the right path or I would not feel so much peace and love.
Intolerance of others beliefs causes hate and discontent and that is not God's intent. So there it is.
Well, ethics & morals are very important, it wouldn't be enough for me, except in the business world. I was speaking about Churchgoers anyway, how they worship or serve the Lord differently. Some belong to the music ministry. Some sing standing. Some wave banners & sing. Some clap their hands.Some raise their hands. Some speak in tongues. Some close their eyes while they sing.Some dance & sing. I have no idea what Jews do in the Temple. Or Muslims in the Mosque. I just know it would be different.
But I could not be close friends with an unbeliever. It's one thing to help someone who is poor in spirit, but it's burdensome to me when that person's personal creed is "my will be done" instead of "your will be done, Lord." We'd have to part company not just b/c sinners can corrupt(unbelief is a sin in itself) but I wouldn't be doing the will of God. Romans 12:2 - And do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Philippians 4:7 - And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.
I could tell you about how the Lord saved my month old from choking to death on formula. How when I called on Him the miracle happened. I could tell you how the Lord saved us during hurricane Andrew(when I really thought He'd forsaken us) I could tell you how my friend & I could have been lunch for a shark as we were on a rubber raft& vulnerable. But I met the black eyes at the same time he saw me.Wasn't our time. My reaction was to take my oar & beat the heck out of it. All it took was me raising the oar & it went away! I couldn't think of reacting like that if I tried.
I could go on but I don't want to bore anyone(including myself) so someone else could speak of their deliverances too.
So basically what I'm saying is that I feel more comfortable knowing that someone else has a religion or faith that they enjoy being a part of. Especially when there are common beliefs and practices involved.
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