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Old Sep 7, 2009, 10:55 AM
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Evolution Compromise?

Hi, I posted this in Christian forum but it disappeared and someone told me to discuss evolutionism there is not allowed.

I was talking about this issue with my friend who is an Evolutionist, we thought why can't there be a compromise between Evolutionists and Christians, some Evolutionists say there theory doesn't work with the Bible, but we figured out a way...bare with me...

Evolutionism says Man evolved from other creatures that were like him, right? That sounds against the Bible but just wait...

The Bible says that God created Man in His own image, which is to say, he looked like Him. So what if Man evolved from God? I know its kind of a long shot and it would take alot of study from theolgists and scientists, but we think it is a great Compromise that would answer the great question, where did we come from?

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Old Sep 7, 2009, 03:08 PM   #2  
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The problem with religion and science is that they deal with entirely different subject matter. Religion deals with metaphysical issues while science deals empirical issues. At the moment there is no satisfactory theory which links the two. This is despite attempts throughout history of many great minds to create a link. Some might argue that Kant has come the closest.

For Freeman J Biggs' idea to be viable he would need to explain what he means by 'evolved from'. Is this to be used in a metaphysical sense or and empirical sense?
Secondly, there is the problem of Empirical Theism. How do we get the idea of a perfect being based on our observations within the material world?
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 03:01 PM   #3  
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Hi, I posted this in Christian forum but it disappeared and someone told me to discuss evolutionism there is not allowed.

I was talking about this issue with my friend who is an Evolutionist, we thought why can't there be a compromise between Evolutionists and Christians, some Evolutionists say there theory doesn't work with the Bible, but we figured out a way...bare with me...

Evolutionism says Man evolved from other creatures that were like him, right? That sounds against the Bible but just wait...

The Bible says that God created Man in His own image, which is to say, he looked like Him. So what if Man evolved from God? I know its kind of a long shot and it would take alot of study from theolgists and scientists, but we think it is a great Compromise that would answer the great question, where did we come from?

-fjb
Christians accept that God created man to rule over this planet. If you want to believe the theory of evolution then man is just an animal with no authority to rule over anything. There can be no compromise since Christians believe it is compromise that has landed us where we are. Should we fall for the same glib talk twice. Science cannot demonstrate evolution yet science is all about documenting demonstratable fact. Darwin was an observer and most of his observation was about geology yet we take his theories about biology seriously. God told us what he considered we needed to know, he didn't give us all the details and he didn't ask us to fill in the blanks. this is why science has difficulty with the biblical explanation but take the words of one eminent scientist
"I just want to know the thoughts of God everything else is just the details" Albert Einstein. I happen to agree we are too caught up in documenting everything down to the last detail instead of enjoying the ride.
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Christians accept that God created man to rule over this planet. If you want to believe the theory of evolution then man is just an animal with no authority to rule over anything. There can be no compromise since Christians believe it is compromise that has landed us where we are. Should we fall for the same glib talk twice. Science cannot demonstrate evolution yet science is all about documenting demonstratable fact. Darwin was an observer and most of his observation was about geology yet we take his theories about biology seriously. God told us what he considered we needed to know, he didn't give us all the details and he didn't ask us to fill in the blanks. this is why science has difficulty with the biblical explanation but take the words of one eminent scientist
"I just want to know the thoughts of God everything else is just the details" Albert Einstein. I happen to agree we are too caught up in documenting everything down to the last detail instead of enjoying the ride.
I agree with what you are saying. In the end my belief in God is a matter of faith. Arguments that I have put forward are a matter for debate just like all knowledge can be up for debate.
To be honest, many of the arguments that I have put forward contain things that I don't necessarily believe are true. I also know that for every argument we construct it is always possible to come up with an alternative position.

Why do I do it? Because it is a challenge and it is fun. The challenge is constructing an argument which you don't necessarily believe is true and the fun bit is actually constructing the argument.
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