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You all brought the bible into this! You all claimed that people who adhere to the bible aren't cults, that's why I'm discussing groups that teach the bible. No one ever mentioned the Koran or anything else because I'm sure you all believe that they are cults in a negative way.
First, don't try to assume what you think that I believe - you don't do well at it.
Right - I said people that adhere to the teachings of the Bible do not comply with the definition of a cult. It was then that you came up with a different definition which appears to be that every organized group that teaches the Bible is a cult. I am trying to understand your definition, what the limits are around it, and the basis for it.
To be quite honest, the definition sounds quite arbitrary and I have never heard anything remotely like it before.
Whose canon and which translation, and "essential" according to whom?
And just to save us all some time, don't serve up yet another heaping pile of that "the-Bible-interprets-itself" crap that you're so fond of. Where there's a reader, there IS an interpreter. If you aren't willing to claim it as your own, don't expect other people to take your interpretation seriously.
Whose canon and which translation, and "essential" according to whom?
There is one canon historically accepted by all Christians. In the last few hundred years, a few denominations (very few) added to the canon for their specific denominations. That does not change the canon accepted by Christianity as a whole.
Translation does not matter. Where differences occur, we go back to the original Greek. But translations have not affected essential teachings in any case.
We can go back to the 1st entury church and see what was essential to them.
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And just to save us all some time, don't serve up yet another heaping pile of that "the-Bible-interprets-itself" crap that you're so fond of. Where there's a reader, there IS an interpreter. If you aren't willing to claim it as your own, don't expect other people to take your interpretation seriously.
Just because you have difficulty reading without interpreting does not mean others do.
Not all schools teach the bible Tom, only the Christian schools do it with regularity. Seeing as most kids that attend Chrisitian schools are in fact members of Christian church, yes, I consider them a cult.
Then I misread your original post. Sorry, human, I sometimes miss things.
The Catholic school that I went to. We did a very long study on cults in religion class, and yes, we determined that all organized religious groups, including the Catholic church are indeed cults.
Once again, you seem to think that stating that these groups are a cult is a negative thing and in this case it isn't. It's just a definition, why are you all so upset about it?
Alti i agree completely i also went to catholic school my entire life. Yes the church is a cult and there's nothing wrong with that. Most importantly their is nothing wrong with the word cult
Like I said, if you find it hard, don't assume that no one else can just read and accept what it says.
If you think you can read something and understand "what it says" without interpreting it, you're deluding yourself. A literal interpretation is a choice you make, and if you're satisfied with it, that's fine. But it IS your choice, so don't pretend you aren't making it.
If you think you can read something and understand "what it says" without interpreting it, you're deluding yourself. A literal interpretation is a choice you make, and if you're satisfied with it, that's fine. But it IS your choice, so don't pretend you aren't making it.
If I say "The sky is blue" - tell me your interpretation.
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