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Nov 1, 2007, 05:38 PM
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| | | About the whole chip thing with the mark of the beast. Is that what they are making now and starting to use on animals? What are th consequences of accepting it?  | | | | | | |
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Nov 1, 2007, 06:04 PM
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| I'm not really sure what you are asking here... there is a chip you can have implanted into your pet which, if your pet is lost and later found by animal control allows them to scan the chip and obtain your phone number. My dog has one, and when she got out of the yard years ago and picked up by the doggie police, they scanned her, called me, and I went to pick her up. It does not harm the animal at all.
Are you worried it might be used on people in the future, and that this is somehow the sign of the end of the world? | |
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Nov 1, 2007, 06:30 PM
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| consequences of accepting it, let me see, you have complete medical records with you for a hopsital if you get sick, You have the ability to stop con artists, you have the ability to help catch criminials easier.
And you of course have better control of those in the US illegally.
You can find lost children better.
So let me see, all good things, can't see a problem.
They said that social security cards, credit cards, drivers license were all marks of the beast ( try to work or get a bank account without a social security number)
But every generation have had what it thought was the amrk. | |
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Nov 1, 2007, 07:50 PM
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| Someone told me that is was for some reason supposed to be a bad thing to accept even though it seems so good and helpful.
Like the mark of the devil? If you were to accept it you will never go to heaven? | |
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Nov 1, 2007, 10:20 PM
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| Mark of the devil, would be any and all evil.
Having to go to the doctor,getting surgery and having to put in an artificial valve in your heart, these things are medical neccessities.
Are you talking about the Anti-Christ?
I am sure that these chips are not part of that,but yes having a chip in your passport animal or any other form of thing makes it easier to track people/animals down when it is needed.
I am sure this helps those who wish to be able to control cartain things.
But do bear in mind that chips or any other electronic devices cannot control the Almighty.
Heaven is not controlled by the devil and all those who enters Heaven will do so with the mercy of the Almighty. | |
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Nov 1, 2007, 10:36 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by dragondog Someone told me that is was for some reason supposed to be a bad thing to accept even though it seems so good and helpful.
Like the mark of the devil? If you were to accept it you will never go to heaven? |
Some people have too much time on their hands.
I work in a public library. Libraries are beginning to tag each book with a chip simply to get the books back again. (You would never believe how many thousands of books are stolen, even with security systems, or kept overdue or are lost and how many $$$$$ are, in effect, stolen from the taxpayers because of irresponsible patrons.) If that chip puts librarians in hell, be sure to look for me there because I totally believe in retrieving lost and overdue books. | |
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Nov 2, 2007, 05:54 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by dragondog Someone told me that is was for some reason supposed to be a bad thing to accept even though it seems so good and helpful.
Like the mark of the devil? If you were to accept it you will never go to heaven? |
There are benefits to the chip system in people such as Chuck mentioned, but there are people who attribute their implementation to more sinister doings by the government. For example, if you are required to scan your chip before you enter/leave any public building, the government can see at a glance where you've been, how much time you spent there, etc. This is great for suspected child molesters who are entering schools, but what about when the feds knock on the door of every Muslim who visited the Empire State Building after a terrorist attack? Could this lead them to the attackers? Maybe, but it certainly would lead to the harassment of innocent citizens and would be an invasion of privacy. Having your medical and personal data on a chip also makes it susceptible to being "stolen" if someone is able to make a device which they can scan people at will. I'm sure someone out there would LOVE to get Bill Gates' bank info and PIN.
So there are advantages and disadvantages. If you think the implementation points to the devil, well, I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. I don't think so, but it's up to you to draw your own conclusions. | |
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Nov 2, 2007, 06:01 AM
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| How does the implantation of RFID chips become a religious issue? Is this what the original question is about? | |
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Nov 2, 2007, 09:20 AM
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| Many libraries now insist that a fingerprint scan be done so that a patron can always be identified as a legit, registered computer user. Schools have been doing the fingerprint scan on students to create an ID file in case a child ever goes missing. I think nursing homes here and there are doing something like that too, especially in Alzheimer's situations, in case a resident disappears. | |
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Nov 2, 2007, 09:24 AM
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| Many religious programs have put fear in people about the mark of the beast being a chip. The chip they use to control others. It is all about interpretation but like FR.Chuck pointed out these things and advances are good for us, but in the wrong hands could be used for evil. just like everything else we have in this world. | |
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