In 5 Words or less: What are you?

RickJ · Mar 2, 2006, 03:01 AM

I'm just curious. I know a few of you but not many. I'm not looking for debate or comment, just wondering...

Me: Ecumenical Evangelical Roman Catholic Christian

Krs · May 30, 2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by arcura

Krs.
I have a question.
What to you mean by the word justify qhen you said "i believe there is a greater power looking over us in which i call God, but i cant justify what!"
By "justify" do you mean "give good reason" or "explain" or "rationalize" that belief?
Most people can do that for whay they believe, so maybe you mean something else?
I'm a pracricing Catholic and am just wondering.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

I basically say that i cant justify what, because i dont have alot of faith, sad but true! I was baptised, holy communion, confirmation and even went to a catholic school, and had religion lessons everyday!
So i do believe we have a God Almighty who i call the greater power looking over us but my faith is not that strong! Cant really explain it well.
Infact i do not go to mass coz mainly id feel like a hypocriat if i did.

Jonegy · May 31, 2006, 03:39 AM

Hi Krs

The reason you are even trying to justify your beliefs is probably because of the years of brain-washing by the 'men in black'. Man's greatest talent is his ability to use 'logic'. Try this route and see where it takes you.

I was brought up 'High' Church of England ( very near Roman Catholic apart from non acceptance of the Popes authority). As I grew older and travelled the world - met Muslims - Hindus - Budhists - et al, I began to question the whole idea of religion in general. I have ended up as a convinced Atheist - your route might be different - BUT - do not take advise from the 'men in black' or their desciples = go to what they call the main man, him upstairs and work it out with him. If you get a reply - looks like you'll be in the same **** as Geo Bush and Tony Blair.

However it goes - enjoy the journey - and I can asure you there'll be no great thunderclaps or flashes of lightening destroying you.

Krs · May 31, 2006, 03:45 AM

Im an agnostic - i guess you can say.
Certain things happened to me and my family with alot of heart ache and i guess i took it out on God (which is probably wrong) but thats just me!

Probably yes re: brainwashing.. as i suppose most religions are. People are brainwashed!

I like to believe that by being a good person doesnt mean coz you are catholic, christians, muslims or whatever coz so many religious people do bad things in life i.e kill others for the name of whatever - being a good person is by not harming anybody and leading a good life in general.
If you see my point!

And also these days science has proved so many things.
Like for example i just cant believe God created Earth and God created humans.. besides tha fact that it just seems so unreal to me and plus scientists have proved otherwise

Krs · May 31, 2006, 03:47 AM

RickJ - this is another
sorry im gonna drive u mad

RickJ · May 31, 2006, 03:52 AM

Ecumenical Evangelical Roman Catholic Christian

arcura · May 31, 2006, 08:14 AM

Krs...
Your faith is weak because you are not working it.
Like a muscle, the more you work it the stronger it gets and the reward in awesome.
I get several science magazines and read a lot about it. Every new discovery proves to me that God exists.
I have seen to many miracles and had so many prayers answered that I'd be a fool to not KNOW that God exists and Jesus Christ is His son.
It all comes from working my faith.
Keep in mind that the spirituality can deal positively with science, but science cannot deal with spirituality as yet because science cannot put God in a test tube or a laboratory experiment. Therefore God is by far the greater of those two realities.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

31pumpkin · May 31, 2006, 08:41 AM

Acura:

My saying I'm a non-denominational Christian I mean that that is the Church I was most influenced by. The Church describes themself as such in the local directory.

I also praise God that I was brought up in a household where any strict religion wasn't required for membership. We were Catholics & both my brother & I had baptism, communion, & confirmation. Sacraments I think for the Catholic faith.

However, there wasn't anything force fed to us. At 30 I was saved & my aunt who witnessed to me showed me that it was all about Jesus, and that it was simple but true. We attended Bible study & Mass (she more than I - my excuse was that I was weighed down a bit with a newborn & couldn't always go )

But we carried on with the Christian title, I can't say for them, but for me as all of my original family were killed prematurely & suddenly.

But praise God. I'm still here. My current family told me they need me. So I guess that's the main point.

The Lord's in touch with me now. Gave me many answers, and many blessings. When you've seen the Glory of the Lord, you don't doubt Him ever again!

According to Dr. David Yount (author of Living Wisely in Light of the Afterlife -1999) " The fear of every person who struggles with faith, hope and doubt is well founded, and I share that with you. But to know God is to love him, and love conquers timidity. Grace abounds and, if we let it, will transform us into new creatures suited for eternity.'
' Should fate decree that you and I never meet in the course of this life, I fondly look forward to catching up with you in the next. Unless I miss my guess, we will both be laughing"

Dr. Yount holds 3 graduate degrees in Theology as well as a degree in psychology. A longtime chairman of the College of Preachers in Wash., D.C., a prize-winning editor of a column "Amazing Grace", & it goes on!

So yes, I REALLY believe. I think the Lord shows us proof of himself if we sincerely & humbly ask for the signs.

So, did u say 5 paragraphs or less? Couldn't do it, now that I am no longer catatonic (thankyou Jesus)

Cheers to you.

phillysteakandcheese · May 31, 2006, 08:43 AM

I strongly believe that at some point in our future, our understanding of science and technology will converge with our religious beliefs and faith.

Once we understand that link, we’ll open an entire new era of understanding our place in the universe.

Krs · May 31, 2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcura

Krs...
Your faith is weak because you are not working it.
Like a muscle, the more you work it the stronger it gets and the reward in awesome.
I get several science magazines and read a lot about it. Every new discovery proves to me that God exists.
I have seen to many miracles and had so many prayers answered that I'd be a fool to not KNOW that God exists and Jesus Christ is His son.
It all comes from working my faith.
Keep in mind that the spirituality can deal positively with science, but science cannot deal with spirituality as yet because science cannot put God in a test tube or a laboratory experiment. Therefore God is by far the greater of those two realities.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

Well maybe than you answered my questions.
I prayed so much on one insitance, and i prayed from my heart with the faith i had left, and my prayers were not answered to and no miracle happened and my father was taken away from me. So that proves that i hold grudges against that. Very horrible but i just cant help it.

31pumpkin · May 31, 2006, 02:39 PM

Krs:

Simon was not the only believer ever bound by bitterness. In the Book of Hebrew, a letter written to and for believers, warning is given conserning the destructive effects of bitterness.
Hebrews 12:15 - Looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up causing trouble, and by this many become defiled.

Not that anyone couldn't use it but for things like these ...A Spiritual Cleansing works well. That's one of the issues it focuses on. My bondage was pride. But it's not so bad b/c the one to be humble to is Spiritual and omnipresent. So the Kingdom of Heaven is very much within you, living this life on earth.

A Shakespeare poster had something written too: " Life is a Tragedy to those that Think...And a Comedy to those that Feel" How extreme.

So I think Spiritual cleansings change you and you find more spiritual things manifest (by that I mean to actually realize what's making things happen more)



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