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the courts would not give me custody because i work and she didnt. Im the bread winner and shes a good mother so i didnt press the issue. I can only get vistiation every other weekend because i am the non custodial.
Time is NOT relevent, some can do more with little amounts of time. The judge can only be the children when they are older. So far I think im doing pretty good. We really do love one another and laugh more often than not.
I still dont see where spanking should be illegal. Whats next, we cant yell at our kids either?
My sister has 4 girls. Her 5 year old come at her with a knife once. She got a butt whippin. Now she is maintained on Seraquel anti phycotic med. At the time I dont think she would have responded to a timeout. She was out of control. None of the others sisters have ever acted this way.
Not good practice to spank any child in public, its humiliating. Plus you really can get your kids takin off of you.
The question was should it be illegal or not?
Im not saying that whipping a kid makes you a better parent. The amount of time spent is just as irrelavant. Its a parents choice to determine what is appropriate.
Some parents do not have a high tollerance no patience to use other means of correction. Some are just plain ignorant. If you gotta go to jail everytime you spank a child is ludicris. Can you picture Johnny no brains trying to keep his kids from beating on one another by his idea of non vilolent good parenting tactics. Hed prolly offer them a beer or somthing. lol
I like the one comment about 'maybe the goverment should step in and limit who can have kids and who cant.' Maybe we should have to take an aptitude test or something. And if you score high you obtain swatting privilages...lol
I do feel that if a child is brought up in a good home with good parents they will have more of a chance to become good parents for their kids.
My sons stepdad has whipped my son and it bothered me deeply. It was a tough situation because he was given permission by my ex-wife. I asked that it not be done again. So far so good.
Do you think that spanking a child should be illegal?
I am totally against spanking a child. In 22 years of parenting, with three children, I have never had to spank even once, and never would. That being said, I don't believe it should be illegal, mostly because I don't believe it's a law that could be enforced properly.
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
It may not be illegal but if some one reports it to Child protective services they most often do treat it like it is illegal and then you are put through hell over it. I know many people who are afraid to discipline their kids other than reward system because of CPS.
Depends on the state where you live, I think. In our state, the only thing that is illegal is if you leave marks that remain for more than ....I can't remember if it's fifteen or thirty minutes. And discipline means to TEACH, so there are a multitude of ways to discipline your children that don't include hitting or bribing them.
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Originally Posted by Sanjay Persad
So based on the bible, u agree with the phrase "Spare the rod and spoil the child"?
The shepherd's rod is used to lead the sheep, to show them the right way to go. It is NOT used to hit them. So, in the proper context, I DO agree with that phrase.
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So, when your child runs across the street and/or does something dangerous like that...you are gonna give him/her a time out??
No, I never used time out as a discipline tool with my children. They were never given the CHANCE to run into the street. Until they were old enough to think clearly and realize the consequences of their actions, keeping them safe from harm was my responsibility, so I kept them out of harm's way. I wouldn't have ever thought to hit them for slacking in my duty to them, which is the only thing that would have resulted in them having the opportunity to run into the street.
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Yes, I know where the non spankers are comming from, a sad state of liberal education and not enough spanking when they were a child most likely. Of course it is often there children I see destroying everything in sight as the parent ignores them and then gets upset when a stanger yells at them to behave.
I was spanked as a child. Know what it taught me? It taught me anger, and it taught me to be more sneaky and creative. My children, who are now 22, 18 and 15, were taught proper ways to behave, and were never allowed to get by with misbehaving, in public or in private.
Love your children. Love someone elses if you can. Dont hurt them, just love em best you can. If you see abuse report it. That is what us adults are here for. Protecting them, they cant protect themselves, so moms, dads, granparents, brothers, sisters, and friends, stand up and help, don't just sit back and watch!! I think that is what really needs to be said, cause I can bet one outta ten (maybe less) of you have been involved in some sort of abuse that could have been prevented if someone would have stood up and taken action!
Love your children. Love someone elses if you can. Dont hurt them, just love em best you can. If you see abuse report it. That is what us adults are here for. Protecting them, they cant protect themselves, so moms, dads, granparents, brothers, sisters, and friends, stand up and help, don't just sit back and watch!! I think that is what really needs to be said, cause I can bet one outta ten (maybe less) of you have been involved in some sort of abuse that could have been prevented if someone would have stood up and taken action!
Start--while I agree that ABUSE should be reported---swatting a kid on his butt isn't abuse.
Abuse is backhanding the kid across the room.
A bit of a difference, hmmm?
Really--the biggest difference between a spanking and abuse is that a spanking is done to correct a child. Abuse is to vent your own anger.
Sadly, most states have laws that as long as you don't leave bruises while beating your child, it's not abuse. Also, if the bruises you leave behind are not totally conclusive, they will not be acknowleged. My husband ex-wife, and her new husband, regularly beat the living tar out of our youngest son, who as ADHD and ADD. We even had them in court for that... but the judge said, no no... send them back to these people, and tell them not to leave bruises.
So, spanking... ONLY for a small child, for saftey violations (such as running out on to the road etc) never more then 3 light blows, on the behind only, and only with your bare hands. Usually that will get the point of "Hey, if I do that again, it's really going to hurt" across.
There is no need to hit a defenseless kid. If a child acts out regularly its because of the parents. Society created rules and laws and a conduct code that children are to be taught. That is not how man was born. They are being what humans were orginally born to be. One must mold and condition them into "society's" standards and hitting them is NOT how you enforce that lifestyle. Its not their faults that we have to train them into people of government. Take ME behind the barn...My son is four. He has been all over the place like a monkey. Untamed gorilla. I have never hit him. Once i went to spank him. I thought to myself what if some big guy came swinging at me and being his father doesnt give me the right. You are portraying acts of violence on a child at that. FR you are a creep. You and people like you ever lay a hand on my boy youll be in jail sick twisted..