----------THREAD IS SOLELY MEANT FOR INDIANS,ESPECIALLY in INDIA-----

You know I just quit my job today, and I cant explain how relieved I feel about it.Used to work as a tech support in a BPO , outsourced in India with most customers calling from america .To a point where I realised that the job was getting way too frustrating for me ,was doing absolutely no good for me, demoralising me completely .By the way there is one thing which i can certainly say for sure --- I THINK MOST AMERICANS ARE *******S BY DEFAULT----------

With some customers using language like " This bastard router is not working, I'll f**k your wife if you dont make it work"
Even heard of Austrlians, New zealanders being super racists .

I just want to address this issue especially to Indians who are doing such jobs, "Guys common , wake up - think we deserve much better " , .We live in our own country and do such derogatory work , such derogatory jobs. Its like living in your own country and lobbying the white man's *** , and sucking it hard and dry .And someone out- there just calls up and uses such language ,abuses us outright - and we do nothing !
Stop working in these so called MNCs , these so called tech support centres.Im sure we have better things to do , better oppurtunities .
I just heard about a certain Richard bouchman (apparently someone in the White house) who criticised India for accusing Pakistan of its involvement in the Mumbai Blasts recently, citing we do not have hard evidence ,when the fact is one of the key suspects himself has confessed of " The Pakistans ISi's involvement in these attacks .See how useless these people are ?, and we go lobbying after them , such useless people. We think of strengthening our ties with these guys. "Byall means remember one thing-we are the east and they are the west , and no matter what -the difference will always be there.common , at leat educated indians should not opt out for such derogatory work !"
Anyway I just wanted to make this one point straight from my heart,and anyway this thread is solely for anyone who has probably gone through the same harrasing experience as I have.I dont care about anything else.

K_3

Before the Americans were involved in Iraq, they were killing each other, look at what Sadamm did to his people. Men in power will always cause war, because they want more power. It happens in every country. To blame the Americans for death and fighting throughout the world is so ludicrous. No one country is to blame if they are at war.
I have some wonderful friends that are from India. They are a peaceful people, if you were to ask them about me, they would say the same. It is too bad big companies have opened offices in India, but believe me, if the Indians did not want them to do it, they wouldn't. You will only be exploited if you allow it.

It saddens me that a whole race is judged by a select few and everyone is looking for someone else to blame. So, sir, you took a job that you are not tough enough skinned to work at. Accept that, and realize when someone has a problem, it is frustrating to begin with and when you are having a hard time communicating with each other it makes it worse. I am not blaming you, there are many people who love to argue and love to get those grumpy people calling so they have an excuse to be grumpy back. Let them have those jobs. Surely there are many jobs in India that you would be paid more money at and be happier at, because the big businesses are only exploiting the Indians with their companies there anyway. If the American companies are hated so much there you need to boycot them and they would leave if they had no workers. Right? I do know for a fact there have been lay offs of American workers because they have taken their offices to India. I have 2 friends that worked for a health care provider in the office and they closed it here and all billing is done from India. The Americans would be glad to have their jobs back. Do that for us, will you? Thank you and I truly wish you the best of luck with your new venture. I would never be able to work as you did.

SHAHRAZAD

o( blame the Americans for death and fighting throughout the world is so ludicrous) how could u say that?, can u imagine some one come to your house and cause u pain by the premise they want to help u? do u see americans help countries with dictators and cause havoc if they do not have oil or some kind of their benefit? come on the issue is much bigger that bad attitude on the phone, like i said if u just admit the problem and accept why is happening is happening instead of just arguing for the sake of arguing and just being righteous death on any sides is going to stop, i think americans think the world is just americ, they do not know how their government operate and after 9/11 they start to have some ideas but denial will not solve any thing and for u to say america is not to blame this the most rediculous thing i have ever heard, america is the bigget and most powerful country in the world and u want to know how they act in other countries u should just stop denying that the american policy around the world is biggest terrororist and the biggest bully, i can not talk too much here but there is a documentary u should all watch u might get the right pic i am not sure about the name but i think it is called (marshal war of usa) iam not sure i do not think it is the right name but i will get the name for u in the next 5 hours but just watch documntary movies from other countries instead of just thinking the world is only america and stop being self righteous, and i want to add something for the example i gave about the kid who will hate americans who caused his mom and dad death u have to go to the root of the problem istead of taking to problem from the middle and go from their it is like if someone punshes u and if punsh back u r to blame this exactlly how i see americans handle terorr they should know that they started the terror all those poor countries have no means in the beginning to come here to cause problems but the oil and what not made american government economic colonizatin for their own advantage, and for the bad attitude on the phone and some of them being racist it is just the tip of the ice burg and the others who clame they r not racist sure they answers as narrow as a racist

K_3

Are you trying to tell me that Sadamm did not kill any of his people? Are you trying to tell me that people in the "oil" countries are not constantly throwing rocks and grenades at each other? Constantly blowing up cars and busses and buildings with their own people in them? I am not saying America should or should not be there. I think ALL heads of government are too powerful NOT just the Americans. Look at the oil countries, the people are so poor and yet the heads of the gov't live beyond kings. What I said was, there is fighting everywhere all of the time whether the Americans are involved or not. Read all of my post and read the words, do not put words where they are not. I am not calling you a racist nor am I one. I am saying a fact, there has been war before America was even discovered and there will be war after. If America is so bad, why do so many foreigners want to live here?

ScottGem

Shah,
You seem to have a very narrow, egocentric viewpoint here. You need to look at the larger picture and maybe you will have some understanding.

I'll point out my very specific example. The tsunami of last year. Americans supplied aid to the victims of that disaster. Many countries that do not supply us with oil or anything else. No return was asked or expected. I'l also note that when we suffered thru similar devastation as a result of Katrina, there was very little support provided by other countries.

You seem to think we are the only ones in the the wrong here ("if u just admit the problem and accept why is happening"). I have already said, that I am aware of and understand some of the problems we cause. However, you make no attempt to see things from our side ("cause u pain by the premise they want to help u"). Did it ever occur to you that all we want to do is help? That we recognize the riches our country has been blessed with and want to help others achieve that? Maybe its not a "premise", but a sincere desire to help. Granted we often do it badly, but maybe if the people we are trying to help look past the mistakes and realize that's we are just trying to help, then maybe they might not resent the mistakes as much.

But yes I DO deny that America is the biggest terrorist and bully. That is just propaganda, that you seem to have been fed. We did not start terror anyplace.

If you want to look at root causes, try jealousy. A large part of the reason for the antagonism towards us is jealousy over what we have. Most countries have no problem in asking us for help when they need it, while at the same time biting the hand that feeds them.

You need to open your mind and try looking at facts. The facts are that the American people value peace and are generous and helping for the most part. But we also have backbone and will retaliate when we are attacked. The two largest cowardly attacks in human history were perpetrated against us (Pearl Harbor and 9/11). When attacked we WILL defend ourselves. An sometimes, the best defense is a good offense.

talaniman

I realize in other countries that thoughts and ideas are not so freely expressed but, to just repeat the party line without really knowing what goes on in the world is so sad.

SHAHRAZAD

oh my god that is the simplton would say that, i know u r not a politician u like to believe the good intention of america, any thing u said about why people come if america is so bad and people r jealous , is this the mind of an american( simplton) it is not what u want to believe it is pure politics of course u r an american u only hear the good things america does but u have to hear it from different prospective, it is not personal and i do not think people should kill americans it does not solve the problem but u should wake up and know that u do not live in this earth alone and protest your government your government does not care about u they send your kids to be killes. like i said u want to believe the good things it is like your parents u do not want to believe they r bad (this is just an example, iam sure they r wonderful people) unless u go out side not being in an emotional state, i know there is war before america, i am against those extremist muslims i think they r very severe in their own religion i do not agree with the religion it self but this is not the point the point is u can not use every coountry to yur advantage, so u know little bit about the soviet union and how they collapsed and please do not come back and have an attack on me and just act as a simplton american go and get more document and read alot of history , i repeat it is not personal i just wish america become more educated about the world and stop being arrogant about it, my boyfriend is an american i just want to say that to let u know it is not personal

ScottGem

Ok, I see there is no point in discussing anything with you. You have a closed mind. You see only what you want to see or what the propagandists tell you.

Whether you believe it or not, I do see the warts. But I also see the good things. I survived 9/11 (I was in one of the towers that morning). I've seen the generosity and good heartedness of Americans. I am not blind to the excesses and abuses that we are also guilty of. You only see the bad and want to paint all Americans with the same brush. But you refuse to open your eyes to the facts. You accuse me of attacking you, when I have not come close to it. And then you make matters worse by attempting to insult me.

I was a political science major and am a history buff so I feel I know more than a bit about world history. If anyone needs to be educated, its you, I think you know very little about americans.

SHAHRAZAD

u r talking about the american individuals who like to believe that their conuntry is the best country and their policy as generous as they r inside and as the movies depicted it to others, i guess i was clear to say that americans should know what is going on from there country and to participate and to know every thing their government does, it is going to affect them sooner or later, and education has nothing to do with politics i know u r an educated man but do u really know any thing about why americans governmet is hated and please do not tell me it is jealousy i think we r not kids here we can have logical conversation , i repeat americans as individual r motivated by heros from movies which is very good because as individuals they want to be good but do they know what they government is doing outside, that is was my only reason to write because i thought all americans live in this movies world and movies tell them their govrnment is so good to other nations and that is a shame u can not get your info from movies if u r scientist or a homeless u have to see different prospective, this is not attack on individuals american it is attack on their naivety because they r too victims of their government, do u know how many kids soldier died in the war? and please do not say they r defending their country americans and iraqees died in vain and who is to blame? the governement, america is the most powrful country in the world and americans should have a say in what there government does like i said it is going to affect them and they should not clog their ears and just believe the good things. do they stop and really think what our government did to be hated like that and for those people to come to our country and kill us? think about it. i am not arguing for the sake of arguing i really believe that knowing the fact people in the most powerful country r powerful and can make change but by being believing one thing we r not going to have peace. peace

ScottGem

You keep talking about me seeing things from a different perspective, yet you refuse to. And then you don't see how biased, closed minded and obtuse you are being. How many times do I have to say that I DO understand how Americans are perceived in other countries? How many times do I have to say that I know we have done things to deserve some of the antagonism you talk about?

But when are you going to get off your high horse and try looking at the facts for a change? Your perspective is just as, if not more skewed then you claim Americans are. Things are just not as black and white as you would like to believe. Until you try to view both sides as objectively as I try to, you are going to be off base.

talaniman

Could you be more specific so I can understand your point,you do have a point or are you working for a terrorist cell, where everyone quotes the same line?