By UFO I mean a craft that you could not explain away as being simply an atmospheric anomally, or some high-tech government experiment or hallucination.

BTW
One explanation given by the scientists to a aperson who was chased down the highway by a UfO was that what he had observed was the planet Venus! LOL

shatteredsoul

Magprob, what do you mean they don't wish us well? They could have harmed anyone when they were sighted and didn't. Maybe they are just observing us. Did something make you feel that they are going to harm us? Do you think that time went by when you were at the bottom of that canyon and you think maybe they were examining you and George? How come you never saw him again? Did you ever talk to him about what you saw? Your experience was so engrossing to read. I am curious to understand your thoughts.
Starman, why do you also believe they are dangerous? How do we attack what we don't even know is really there or understand. That would be worse wouldn't it? Your experience seems that it was life changing. Too bad you were so negatively affected by it, maybe people like you and magprob were supposed to see that and to tell others. Maybe it was for a reason?

Starman

Well, the object and whoever or whatever was in control of it didn't care how I felt by having those lights focused on me. Isn't that rather rude? As if I have no right to refuse that kind of thing. No explanations just illuminate him, scare the heck out of him in the process, and go our way attitude? Such behavior if done by one human to another can cause a fight or serious argument-or a lawsuit perhaps for harassment and violation of human right to privacy and to be treated with dignity. Based on that, I came away with the unsettling feeling that something isn't quite right with whatever or whoever is in charge of those things.

Furthermore, its wobbling silent flight pattern was disturbing and its exagerrated diamond-like vertical shape was grotesque--threatening in a way that's hard to explain. It's dim hull color as reflected by the backwash of its forward white light located on what perhaps was a rim, was a sickly organic brown. In short it seemed more organic than machine.
I also experienced a time discrepancy.

Morning newspaper spoke about UFOs causing havoc at the Miami airport. That was exactly the direction traveled toward after stopping to focus those three l lights on me. That behavior which causes concern to aircraft and airport personnel adds to the suspicion that they aren't too noble of character or else if they are noble, they are in a way that doesn't bode good for mankind since they appear to think we have no basic rights on our own planet.

Actually, I was a fool for allowing that thing to focus those lights on me since I had recently read of people suffering burns when they had UFO lights pointed at them in that way. Instead, and for some reason, I just stood there like an idiot and allowed that thing to do whatever it is it did via those lights. Beautiful though, never have seen such intense colors. Maybe that color is made to mesmerise and keep us from bolting while they proceed with their examination?

Yes, I agree that there has to be a reason. But if those things want us to consider them benign then a major change in their modus operandi is in order. About attacking them. well, I was asked why doesn't the military immediately open fire when the UFO is sighted. I recall reading that a jet was once sent to intercept and when it got too close to the object its engines shut off and the pilot had to bail out. So maybe that's the reason for the military's hesitancy in engaging these pestiferous things. Also, they don't attack the vessels they hover over or in any way threaten to harm. That too might contribute.

Neither is it certain that opening fire would be effective since their velocity and the way they maneuver is sufficient to evade getting tagged.

In any case, the military and government are said to be in a conspiracy of silence to avoid public panic. Seems like a valid reason but has a certain aura of being far fetched. What is your opinion?

shatteredsoul

I don't know that I am qualified to have any such opinion. I have never experienced what you or magprob encountered. I am sure it must have been terrifying to have felt so invaded. I don't know that they understood how you felt. I think they are beyond our realm of understanding, so quite possibly it didn't occur to them that you were troubled by their presence. I do think that there is so much we don't know and that is fascinating and petrifying at the same time. I feel that my experience with a UFO would be similar to yours. I would be frightened and fearful of what they might do. However, I do think that they are here for a reason and yes, in my mind you were supposed to have that experience. As grotesque and extaordinary as that object was, you did say you have never seen such illuminating colors. It probably was to keep you mesmerized. You also recognize the validity of your experience by what showed up near the Miami airport. At least your encounter makes it seem much more realistice that things like this happen. It has opened my eyes to the endless possibilites and life forms that we have no idea exist.
Anything that is unknown, is scary. Just like death. Many fear it, because what happens after it is unknown. I think this is very similar. Yes, we have no idea what their intentions are, but I believe that if they wanted to hurt us, they could and would have already. Maybe we are being observed the way we observe animals in the wild. I am sure they feel the same way, except we pluck them out of their surroundings and stick them in a cage to have people pay to look at them. So, people do engage that way. We don't respect nature or animals, and we expect extra terrestrials to give us the respect to keep their distance? I am not trying to get off the subject, just showing that mankind is at fault for the same kind of invasive and terrifying behavior. Not you specifically.
As far as for the military, I think we would be committing the worst crime of we attacked them. They haven't tried to take over the planet, or to kill people, so let them look. Why should we start something that we have no idea how to engage, and no exit strategy? I think we would be in over our heads and the military knows that . The reason they keep a lid on it, is because they don't want everyone to realize they have no idea how to handle UFO's or whatever is in them. WE don't have the capability to follow them or track them. The pilot whose engined turned off, is a perfect example. Their technology is probably light years away from ours. So to them, we are the animals. Am I making sense?
I hope you continue to share your story. IT has had an impact on me and created a stir of wonder and excitement in me, and a little fear. I think you can and will affect many others if you realize how much you may change the way people think about our little world. WE are definitely, NOT ALONE. Thanks for responding, and for asking for my opinion. This has been an interesting thread and I hope to hear more.

Starman

Please keep in mind that I am not saying that what I saw was extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional, or paranormal. What I am saying is that I don't know what it was.
From a religious standpoint it could interpreted as be demonic activity during the last days
when it was prophesied that Satan would be especially active because his time is getting short.

Physicists might propose an extra-dimensional breach where interaction occurs. After all, the newest idea is that atoms appear and reappear because thery shifting to other dimensions and back to ours serving double triple or who knows how many duties in each.

Yet another idea is that these are extraterrestrial.

Then some have proposed a super civilization somewhere beneath the waves and mention Atlantis.

Yet others say that it can be explained by pre earthquake seismic activities which twist underground minerals causing them to project visual atmospheric phenomenon. In fact, one study positively correlated such activity to reported sightings. Laboratory experiments have shown this to be possible. But this doesn't explain the purposeful maneuvering and intelligent -like activity.

Of all these the one which I tend to believe though I do have a certain amount of reservation--is the religious one. But again I am not sure. But what I would like to make clear is that I am not proposing any of these ideas as the one. I am merely describing what an experience that will forever baffle me.

shatteredsoul

OK, I don't really understand what you mean about demonic activity, but I don't believe in Satan. So, maybe that is partly why. It seems as if you are cautious to assume that there were life forms inside of whatever object you saw. I guess it just seemed to be the most plausible idea that came to mmy mind.

As far as another civilization living underneath us, I guess anything is possible. I don't understand how the pre earthquakee seismic activities would affect what you see in Miami, but I guess you are exploring all the options.
I didn't think you were proposing anything, just explaining what you experienced.
I thought it was an incredible story and I am glad you shared it, regardless of what it was.

ghostandufolover

i have seen tons. With my dad, lol. one time we were at taco belll and one ufo showed it underside. it was like that night sun. it was that bright

ashleysb

Never seen a UFO, but I see aliens everyday. Because if there is life forms on other planets somewhere, wouldn't we in fact be aliens to them?