Hi guys! I have made some research on the forum, found lots of relevant information and I think it's time for me to try to reach the core of the members' thoughts about it.

Ok, pornography: is it a nearly harmless entertainment because we are mature enough to decide whether to have access to it?

I know most people, especially parents towards their teens, children, see porn a real danger, a taboo if I may say so.

I found that porn relieves sexual tension and stress, and it is used as a way to stay virgin for as long as possible.

Some of the arguments I found were:
Porn is easy to get addicted to
This in turn leads to broken relationships;
Interference with work & productivity
Compulsive sexual behaviour which can lead to illness & contradicted diseases
Depression/Suicidal thoughts and behaviours
Shame and self-hatred
Guilt and loss
Legal and financial troubles

I'm inviting everyone to comment, discuss on the theme! I hope all will turn out smoothly

Have a great day everyone!

PS: If you just joined the discussion, try reading the previous posts before stating something. It really gets annoying if we turn in circles forever.

asking

I would not say that all explicit sex humiliates women!
And I would not say that all explicit depictions of sex humiliate women, either.
(I assume that's what you meant.) Your scene sounds pretty innocuous.

I would say that though that the sexual humiliation of women is the standard of the industry.

By analogy, color television is the standard of the industry. That's not to say that black and white couldn't still exist if someone wanted it. But it would be hard to find.

(And this is not meant to be a comparison between the value of b&w tv and non degrading depictions of sex. )

Wondergirl

In today's Chicago Sun-Times was an article, "Does porn empower women?" "Yes!" says the December Playboy cover girl. "Finally a woman gets paid more than a man for comparable work, she gets to set the rules, gets to be in a real teamwork with other women, as many key positions at Playboy are in fact held by women!"

One conclusion is that "being photographed naked is not, in fact, a job that moves women as a group closer to equality with men in terms of employment and earning opportunities. Instead, it reinforces the distinctly unfeminist and demonstrably false idea that the commodification of certain sexuality is a form of real power."

"Men, for instance, are favored for all sorts of powerful, high-paying jobs, and often respected more as they get older. Women can sometimes make a bunch of money by taking off their clothes when they're young and most attractive, but then they are less respected in that profession as they get older, no matter how much valuable information they've learned about posing naked by that point."

Read more at Does porn empower women? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Nation

Unknown008

Wow, thanks WG! That's some piece of interesting information!

Thanks to all of you! I'll have to get through all of this again to have a better overview. Keep 'em coming!

Catsmine

I don't know how much more we've got for you, Unky. Asking and Gemini and I seem to have reached a consensus that the subject, in and of itself, is ok; but that the merchandisers have gone past the boundaries of good taste in marketing the perverse.

Thanks for the spirited debate, you guys. I hope you all know how much I respect your opinions.

Now for some porn....

Unknown008

It's ok. Well, if any points come up, and you wish to share, feel free to post!

asking

Well, not exactly. I would have said, "but that merchandisers have poisoned their own product by selling the degradation of women and teaching millions of men and women to associate sexual arousal and orgasm with debasing and shaming women in every conceivable way simply for being women."

I think that captures our consensus a little better.

Gemini54

Absolutely! Five greenies for that!

asking

Unknown,
Here's a documentary about the Business of pornography. I'm not advocating anything in particular in it.

Hulu - Vanguard: Porn 2.0 - Watch the full episode now.

Edit: Irony Alert. Because so many people steal porn, the industry is starting to lose money for the first time ever.
The irony is that Hulu (which is showing this documentary about porn) is giving away so much content that cable is getting ready to crack down and force Hulu to charge for content.

Synnen

I cannot believe that I've been so busy that I completely missed this thread.

Need to read back before throwing my thoughts in, though.

asking

We should have told you!