SSD backpay is owed but SSI cheated me from lump sum backpayment?
Asked Jan 11, 2010, 07:06 AM
Judge at hearing found me fully disabled. I was told backpay for SSD would come in 60 days. Instead when SS did call they never identified SSI and sent me only a small portion that is to come in 3 installments over 18months. I never received SSI back when, but now it shorts my dependents benefit as well as what is owed to me. I feel tricked, lied too, and cheated out of thousands my dependents would & should be entitled too. Why does everyone say to apply for both? I am entitled to SSDI, but back pay is much less due to their tricky conversion to SSI. How do I get these people to do the right thing?
Now I'm confused - it is/was my understanding that when you get SSI you agree to repay it from the proceeds of a SSD award. You get the option to accept or not accept the SSI.
Why would you get a form of aid for financially disadvantaged people and not have to pay it back when you get a lump sum payment?
SSD (and SS, for that matter) were always intended to supplement other income upon disability or retirement. Anyone who plans on SS to finance their "golden years" either is misinformed or ill advised. There are news stories all the time advising people to purchase private policies and plan for their retirement WAY ahead of time.
Welfare in NY works the same - you collect Welfare, you fall into an inheritance or something similar, it's not a pot of gold. You have to pay Welfare back, sometimes pennies on the dollar, sometimes the whole amount you received.
I understand your frustration but there is a basic misunderstanding here concerning these benefits.
Yes, but he NEVER got SSI (well for back pay) he only get 200 a month and to date has got less than 1k in SSI, so why would they take 10k!
When you receive back pay, does your lawyer get some of that also?
I know you signed a contrack, and I know that they are to get no more than the cap of 6,000, or 25%. I am asking can they take more of your back pay?
It happen to me also they beat me out of 4 year of back pay because my attorney did not file a appeal and I apply again after being denied for 4 and half years
I find that hard to believe that your attorney would not have filed an appeal on your behalf. I worked for a disability attorney and we always filed appeals once the client was turned down after the disability hearing. If your attorney did not file the appeal then he would not have been paid for all his work. That is why I find this hard to believe.
We need to get together and gather other victims of this back pay defrauding of the disabled by the SSA, Judges, and Lawyers and Demand a senate Investigation because with as many victims as I alone have heard about this is Organized crime and should fall under the RECO ACT BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL, Plus the fact it is exploitation of the disabled and abuse of the disabled and it takes the lot of them to conspire to pull off such a feet therefore a good number of crimes are committed in these cases as well as many civil rights violations every major media needs to be hounded until they do a massive story and investigation and pay these victims their money owed them no matter how far back or long ago they got away with it. Many like myself fought over 6 years and countless times close to death and by the time you get any money your so worn out from fighting and living in fear they will murder you before you get one dime from them and dare you try to fight them more when they are telling you their ripping you off for your back pay and they dray it out so that even if you do appeal if there is anytime left to get another lawyer and prepare a case you run the risk of loosing everything because if you appeal to the Appeals Council in Virginia, its like less than 30% if that much that wins anything from the Appeals Council and I think most of us see by now Public Corruption is spread so deep in our government its no longer even remotely funny and can prove both vary deadly and destructive. The FBI claims on its website its major current task if going after public corruption yet we see or hear nothing in the news or in the areas we live about any bust or convictions. Anyone is welcome to email me with questions or answers firstname.lastname@example.org
Its all a scam from start to finish using the poor to have their own personal slush fund they can rob at will as a personal ATM. People need to wake the you know what up. These people are robbing murdering and crippling innocent citizens at will and in massive numbers and none of them are being held accountable from big to small businesses to public officers. They poison people with toxic products some the most usless ever made on the planet like cigarettes and even when they do get sued only a small few victims see any money and they just pass they loss onto the next line of victims instead of all those who made profits that includes states and the government they made money and aided and abetted in crippling and murdering innocent people. They all belong in prison and Sorry there twinkiedooter! If you worked for a honest LAWYER MY HATS OFF YO YOU BECAUSE IN MY %$ YEARS I HAVE YET TO SEE OR MEET ONE. Let me give you a little rude awaking and heads up just because your lawyer you worked for never appeared to be dishonest to you don't make them honest. When victims of civil cases have strong evidence and slam dunk cases and call and go in person around the country and no lawyer will touch their cases I'd say that means they have the ability to blacklist victims Nation wide. When Doctors and Lawyers can operate website off the coast of the United States To Blacklist clients and each other in to stop lawsuits or retaliate due to lawsuits that is powerful stuff and violates everything this country was ever based on or formed for and under minds the total concept of Freedom and Equal protection of laws.It sickens and disgust me everytime I hear in the Media or anywhere else the RICH and Or Powerful just because they are rich or in politics or big business they are not to be any better or more powerful than any average citizen and the mere saying that on national TV of any sort is admitting guilt of public corruption and criminal activity anyway you look at it or what you want to dress it up to look or sound or how you want to color it or package it. Fact is none of these people coming on here saying SSA OR THEIR LAWYERS OR BOTH CHEATED THEM ARE LYING NOR ARE THEY STUPID AND DON"T KNOW WHAT THEY HAD BEEN LAWFULLY ENTITLED TO> SSA LAW STATES UPON !ST APPLICATION IF YOUR TURNED DOWN THROUGHOUT the Entire Process and at some point later win your claim and your disabilities are due to or are extensions of the progressed disability of the 1st application and most are even if new disabilities do arise which often will then that claimant is lawfully entitled to their back pay dating from the 1st application. This is where the Big Robbery and Scam comes in making claimants start a 2nd application with SSA and Lawyers knowing full well the disability is the same disability of the 1st application which has now progressed. The 2nd big scam is the SSI not giving it timely or awarding it but never paying it and then collecting back out of the SSDI and state aide given to claimants during the wait time, Their All Exploiting disabled people and making money off them including the lawyers who at least represent the top leading 5 causes of death and most crippling disabilities none of those people should even need a lawyer or be turned down THEY ARE FREAKING GOING TO DIE EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE GOOD Movment or brain power left ITS DISGUSTING AND ABUSE AND PURE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL TORTURE TO EXPECT DYING PEOPLE TO KEEP WORKING ANY JOB UNLESS THEY WANT TO KEEP WORKING UNTIL THEY FINALLY DROP DEAD> SOCIAL SECURITY IS INSURANCE THAT EACH PERSON PAID INTO AND THE LAW WAS INTENDED THAT IF YOU WHERE OUT OF WORK ^ MONTHS YOU GOT COVERED IT WAS INTENDED TO PROTECT BOTH THE WORKER THE BILL COLLECTOR AND ECONOMY NOW ITS BEEN MADE !@ MONTHS SHOWS HOW STUPID CARELESS AND GREEDY AND SELF CENTERED THE SENATE AND CONGRESS IS AND CORRUPT ONLY WANTING TO PROTECT THE VARY WEALTHY NOT THE PEOPLE> WHO IS GOING TO WAIT !@ MONTHS FOR RENT< WHO IT GOING TO WAIT !@ MONTHS FOR THE POWR BILL THE WATER THE CAR INSURANCE TO GET TO AND FROM DOCTORS WHOS GOING TO BUY FOOD ITS A FREAKING RACKET SCAMMING BOTH THE DISABLED AND THE TAX PAYERS USING THE DISABLED AND THE POOR TO EXTORT AND EXPLOIT MONEY FROM BOTH DISABLED PERSONS AND TAX PAYER. SO DON"T FEED ME ANY CRAP ABOUT SOME HONEST FREAKING LAWYERS TELL THAT TO ALL THE SMOKING VICTIMS< PESTICIDE AND OTHER CHEMICAL VICTIMS, LEAD POISON AND ASBESTOS< ALONG WITH AGENT ORANGE AND ALL THE OTHER TOIXC CRAP USED IN THE !ST AND 2ND WW anD Korean War Plus all the other Toxic Chemicals we haven't discovered yet that they hide from the people all the employees hurt at work and no coverage cheated out of damages landlord and many other injries that cripple people for life and some cheap scum that could have easy afforded proper cverage had they lived within their true means and responsabilities or why laws are in place to for state and gov agencies such as SSA to sue 3ed parties who caused the disability of another but selectivly do so and when they do they claim nothing for the victim only for themselves using the victim to self gain and profit falsely. Its total BS when states and the gov sue Cigaette companies that pass the loss of to the cunsumers and the state and gov falsely claiming its to pay Medcaid, WHAT DID THEY DO WITH ALL THE TAXES THEY MADE OFF THESE POISON PRUDUCTS THAT IS WHERE THE MEDICAID MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMING FROM THAT WAS PAID VIA TAXES FROM POISON PRODUCTS AND EVERY PRODUCT THAT CAUSES INJURY AND DEATH AND CRIPPLING OF ITS USERS>
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