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Jan 25, 2017, 06:34 AM
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Right wingers LIKE the GOODIES in Obamacare. They just don't know how to PAY for them
Hello:
It's a matter of math.. I thought right wingers were good at that. No, huh?
The particular GOODIE I'm talking about is insuring people with pre-existing conditions.. I gather the Republican plan is to put those people into a high risk pool, as if that solves the problem, and then they talk about something else..
But, if you HAVE 4th stage cancer, and insurance companies can set their own rates, just HOW much will your policy cost?? If the insurance company is a FOR PROFIT company, your policy is gonna cost 100's of $1,000's a month. How could it not?? Cancer treatment is EXPENSIVE..
So, (1) either the patient pays, (2) the taxpayer pays, or (3) the person dies in the street.. IF there's another outcome, I wanna hear it.
excon
PS> Please don't tell me that he can get all the treatment he needs at the ER.. That's so much malarkey..
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Jan 25, 2017, 07:16 AM
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I too have seen many right wingers wistfully say "I have a relative with a pre-existing condition." They usually soften a bit and say they don't know what the solution is.
One solution might be to put everyone smack dab into the FEDERAL EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN ( FEHBP ) which runs smoothly with about 250 insurers, and covers 400,000 employees with 800,000 covered in total.
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Jan 25, 2017, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
I gather the Republican plan is to put those people into a high risk pool, as if that solves the problem,
But, if you HAVE 4th stage cancer, and insurance companies can set their own rates, just HOW much will your policy cost?? If the insurance company is a FOR PROFIT company, your policy is gonna cost 100's of $1,000's a month. How could it not?? Cancer treatment is EXPENSIVE..
What the right consistently misses is the very core notion of insurance - it is to SPREAD THE RISK. Creating HIGH RISK pools defeats the purpose.
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Jan 25, 2017, 08:41 AM
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You guys are missing the point of the whole right wing argument. Take the credit from Obama! When you call it something else, as they do in Kentucky (Mitch McConnell's state), THEY LOVE IT!
If they really wanted to REPLACE it and save money they would cut out the middleman and have Medicare for EVERYBODY. Of course that's too easy, and cheaper. To be ACCURATE Obamacare is only the FEDERAL rules the insurance company have to abide by since every state has it's own plans, providers, and state regulations. LOL, insurance companies can't raise rates without state permission which may help to explain why some states have increases, and some don't.
They should blame their governors not the EX Prez! I guess I am saying the Republicans are LIARS... most of them any way.
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Jan 25, 2017, 03:31 PM
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You had 8 full years to throw your tantrum Smoothy and the left reserves the right to equal tantrum throwing.
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Jan 25, 2017, 05:31 PM
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The children like elvis have left the room and the adults rule now, the silent majority has spoken and how the left hate it
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Jan 25, 2017, 06:50 PM
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Hello again,
So, NOBODY has the answer?????? It's IMPORTANT,. Really it is.. Without an answer, people will DIE in the street..
excon
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Expert
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Jan 26, 2017, 05:37 AM
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The answer has to come from the top Ex. Righties don't have the luxury of just hollering about Obama and saying NO anymore, they açtually have to do something. All those promises and excuses got them power... again, and remember how that worked last time?
Don't listen to the right wing noise machine, just watch 'em lie their butts off why their own base is dying in the street!
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Jan 26, 2017, 06:46 AM
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Hello again, tal:
You're right. They have NO answer. Let's put a bow on it and leave them with this:
Why don't they call your local fire department a SOCIALIST plot?? Why don't they scream and holler about a GOVERNMENT takeover of fire protection?? Why are they happy PAYING into a pool where EVERYBODY benefits?? Why aren't they pissed off because government CONTROLS the means of fire fighting?? Why are they OK with the government putting out a fire in your garage, but NOT in your heart??
Lemme say again, right wingers.. You're gonna KILL Grandma.
excon
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Expert
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Jan 26, 2017, 07:37 AM
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Lol, what happens when the Donald cuts sanctuary cities budgets which is where they pay for the cops and firefighters? Or those millions of American jobs tied to Mexican trade? You do know Mexico is a huge trading partner don't you?
Get the popcorn to enjoy this circus!
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