 | | | Hi, this is pretty long and confusing but I'm hoping someone will know. I was just rear ended a few days ago during traffic time. The light was green but we all had to stop. The SUV behind us didn't realize it and ended up slamming into the back of our car. She admitted fault and kept telling us that she was sorry and the police ended up taking the report down. The problem is that after he gave us our insurance card I realized I didn't renew it for 2 months. The police didn't say anything to me about it so I didn't notice until we got home. When I tried to renew it they said that with the Progressive local agency, after a period of time of cancelled insurance, they remove the information off their system so I had to basically get a brand new policy. I've been told by a few friends and family that I need to call her insurance company to get them to pay for the damages to our car since she was 100% at fault for it, but I'm not sure if they will deny it if they realize I didn't have insurance at the time. Any suggestions?
Also, I would like to add that it happened in Michigan, so I do not know much of the No Fault Law and that I did end up getting insurance back onto the car about 3 hours after the accident, although I do not think that my insurance company will pay for the damages. Thread Summary |
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Jan 18, 2007, 04:29 PM
| | | Well there are a couple of issues here. Firstly, let me say that I know New York law, and New York is a No-fault state, however the laws are different even in no-fault states, however, they should be substantially similar. Secondly, let me correct some misinformation in some of the earlier responses.
No-fault has absolutely nothing to do with paying for damage to a vehicle. "No fault" coverage refers personal injury protection (aka PIP) and providing first party benefits to those hurt in an accident. The reason they call it "no fault" is actually the opposite of what everyone is talking about. It refers to the fact that in an auto accident, everyone's medical treatment is paid for REGARDLESS of who was at fault (with certain exceptions such as drunk driving, motorcycles, etc.). So as far as no-fault benefits go, a determination of fault is immaterial.
Assuming that you are attempting to have medical benefits paid for, your problem is the fact that the no fault benefits you receive after an accident are through YOUR OWN policy. Now you don't have a policy, so therein lies the problem. It is unfortunate that I am not familiar with specific Michigan Law, however I will tell you what happens in New York, and it may help you as to where you should inquire.
In New York, if you are in an uninsured vehicle and get hurt in an accident, you apply to the State Insurance Fund, MVAIC (motor vehicle accident indemnification corporation) to receive benefits. That may be an avenue of recovery. In some instances, you may also be able to recover through the no-fault policy of someone living in the same household.
I will address the issue of liability coverage and the duty to pay for damage to your car later today or tommorrow. I just got a call I have to take.
As far as liability goes, most of the previous answers are right on. It SHOULD be the responsibility of her insurance company to pay for the damages to your car. (in the abscence of some wacky my law that punishes uninsured drivers...however I think that is unlikely). Call them immediately. The only drawback you are going to see between talking to them yourself as opposed to through your insurer is that they are going to screw you (assign 5-10% of fault to you) and you are going to grin and take it because it's cheaper then fighting them on it. | | |  | Computer Expert and Renaissance Man | |
Jan 20, 2007, 07:39 AM
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As far as I understand, in the event of a rear end collision, the one doing the hitting is usually considered 100% at fault. | | |  | Full Member | |
Jan 20, 2007, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottGem As far as I understand, in the event of a rear end collision, the one doing the hitting is usually considered 100% at fault. | Usually yes. In NY, there is a prima facie assumption of negligence on the part of the driver who rear ends someone. Prima facie is a Latin term which in this context basically means that the dirvier in front has proven his case by the mere fact that he was hit in the rear. The effect of this is a burden shift to the defendant. Normally in civil lawsuits, the burden is on the Plaintiff to prove that the defendant was negligent. In a rear end hit case, the burden shifts to the defendant to provide a non-negligent explanation for the collision. The defense is always the same. "The Plaintiff stopped short." But it doesn't work very often. There are a few other viable defenses and mitigating factors which occasionally find success. Examples are "the emergency defense" (sudden intervening cause such as a deer jumping into the road) or the sun glare defense(more of a mitigating factor then a complete defense. | | |  | New Member | |
Jan 22, 2007, 08:38 AM
| | | Well I called her insurance company and told them that they had to pay for the damages but I was told that I could only claim for a 'mini-tort' and was told that it would only reimburse me for my deductible if it was unwaivable because Michigan is a No-Fault state and each driver is responsible to go back to their own insurance company. Is she right? Sorry, I am just wanting to learn more information since it's costing about $5000 to fix the damages | | |  | Computer Expert and Renaissance Man | |
Jan 22, 2007, 08:53 AM
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I found this site: “Mini-Tort” Limited Property Damage Liability Insurance Under Michigan law, if you are 50% or more at-fault in an accident, you can be sued for up to $500 in damages to another person’s car which are not covered by collision insurance. Most companies offer this coverage, which is sometimes called minitort coverage. But this doesn't deal with your situation where their insured was at fault. I think they are trying to snow you because this has nothing to do with no-fault. It does not list Collision as one of the benefits discussed that fall under no-fault. So I would go back to her insurance company and ask to speak to a supervisor. Explain that you weren't hurt in the accident, nor do you intend to sue. All you want is for your car to be repaired. Since their insured was 100% at fault, you are expecting them to pay for those repairs. If they still refuse, you will have to sue them. | | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | Add your answer here.
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