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Old Aug 27, 2007, 02:19 AM
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Is It Really Fair? If so, to Who?





This question is something that many of our young girls of today must ask themselves. It is a heart-wrenching question for any who contemplate it. Some really don’t know what to do because of the lack of maturity that only comes from experience and age. Some young ladies are only 12 years old, and very confused and frightened.

Society asks, why would anyone want to kill the life of any developing human within themselves? Why would any doctor, nurse or any professional person, who took an oath to do everything in their power to save life, now want to take a life? Answering this question might make some very angry at me but I must write this for the sake of the unborn and for the benefit of a young girl facing such a choice. There are reasons why abortions are done everyday. One very main reason is selfishness either on the part of the parents and it might also be on the part of the expecting mother to be. Also they sometimes do not wish to take the responsibility for their choices and so now the unborn must pay the price for their bad actions.

Society feels in some cases it is better to avoid the consequences of the act and to take steps to conceal, rather then to talk about the problem of sexual intercourse and it being used as a pastime outside of marriage. Some want to enjoy sex fully, without taking responsibility of a natural consequence of sex, a baby! Abortion today is being used as form of birth control. This method of birth control is unfair to the unborn child and is just a plain sick method of shrugging ones responsibility and putting their own selfish desires before the life of the unborn. There is no respect for life in those who abort the innocent because they are addicted to the selfish desire of sexual pleasure then to show respect for life.

The Bible says: “In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves” and “lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God.” Is it not obvious that this condition prevails in our day?—2 Timothy 3:1-4.

Do you know that in the medical field and elsewhere the unborn baby is referred to as “the products of conception,” or what about “contents of the uterus”. Doctors who do abortion refer to the unborn as “contents of the uterus.” In the process of an abortion to make look less then killing, a doctor might ask the nurse, “Is the “content of the uterus” completed?” How sad when a unborn human is not even referred to anything but “content.” These ones that commit such horrific acts against the unborn, try to avoid the moral issue by calling an abortion “termination of pregnancy.” No matter what doctors and abortion clinics and those who go to them try to avoid, the fact remains is this: Abortion is the killing of an unborn human.

Just because the unborn is in the uterus does not make any difference. The abortion is done within 12 weeks of conception. What difference does it make though as to when a human is choked to death, 12 weeks after conception or 12 minutes after it is born into this world? Is not killing still killing? Many moral professionals have though quit their jobs because they could not stand seeing a helpless fetus that was aborted, suffer and struggle to live in a disposal container, while other doctors and nurses sit back and watch this fetus fight to live, until it can not fight any longer. What if that fetus was you?

Some claim that the fetus in not human yet and it doesn’t feel. If that is true, then why do some professionals quit their jobs because of seeing the aborted fetus struggle to live?
These same ones say the fetus is not human because it cannot live by itself. This is not a good argument because we have many adults and children, who depend on the use of an artificial kidney machine or the aid of a battery-powered heart pacemaker. These ones cannot live without the help of these machines. Does that make them less human and alive?

Medical professionals agree that life does begin at the moment of conception. I quote The World Book Encyclopedia, page 228b, has a photograph of an egg and sperm taken through a microscope. The caption over the photo says: “A human life begins when the sperm gets through the outer covering of an egg and fertilizes it.” After reading this from the world encyclopedia, can you personally say that the life snuffed out was not a live unborn human?

Remember this, if your mother aborted you, you would have ended up in a garbage can. As a human that was allowed to live and that did not get aborted as a fetus, do you personally regret that your mother was more concerned with the right for you to live and welcome you, then her rights to have an abortion? Then maybe you will feel for the unborn humans that get aborted each and every day in this world.

If you are a young lady and are faced with the choice of either becoming responsible for your unborn child, giving it up for adoption, or abortion, please read something I wrote that might help you in your choice. Thank you for reading it.

“Mommy, Can You Hear Me?”
By Hope12

“Today I was conceived. I do not have a name as of yet, but my life began today. I can’t wait to see you mommy and tell you how much I love you. I can’t wait for you to hold me in your arms.
Mommy, can you hear me?”

“I am really small, but guess what, I am really here, and I just can’t wait to touch your face and see your smile. I am yours and I am real.
Mommy, Can you hear me?

You should see me mommy I am really growing and getting stronger and stronger each day. Why I am so surprise, because I look and each day I find something new. Now don’t worry mommy, pretty soon I will see you and I know you will love me, because I already love you.”

Today I heard a loud beat, it was my heart and it beats strong. My heart will be important to my future because it will keep me alive when I am born and it will motivate me to always love you and do what is good, especially for you.”

“Mommy, can you hear me?”

Oh, my, what is this, it looks like my arms and legs are growing. I am going to have legs so I can run and jump into your arms. I’m really so excited.”

“Mommy can you hear me?”

I will soon grow so big for this place and I will need more room, and that is when I will be with you Mommy.” It is quit dark here and I can’t wait to feel the sunlight on my face and play outside with you

I wonder what color hair you have mommy? Are you tall or short? Don’t worry; I will love you no matter what you look like. Do you love me? Oh that a silly question because, “I love you mommy and I just know you will love me. I am such a strong and healthy little girl. I am also part of you mommy, so I guess I will be just like you. I think you are special and you are my mommy who I love and can’t wait to see. Mommy, can you hear me?”

“Wait, please wait, don’t do that it hurts real bad. What is going on? Ouch, oh my, I don’t feel so good, mommy. Something terrible is happening to me and it really hurts me.” Please Mommy, make it stop hurting, I’m so scared mommy. I really need your help mommy, something hurts me and it is making me cry.

Mommy, can you hear me?”

What is your comments and can you answer the question: Is this fair? If so to who?

 
     

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 06:53 PM   #41  
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Jillian always seems to have the "right" answer.

It's because I'm so smart; S-M-R-T! I mean, S-M-A-R-T!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 3, 2007, 06:55 PM   #42  
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It's because I'm so smart; S-M-R-T! I mean, S-M-A-R-T!

Yes, girl, you are!!!!

And level headed too!!!!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 4, 2007, 01:09 PM   #43  
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As a man I'm glad it ain't my call. But I stand behind my womans choice. That doesn't mean I agree, or like it.

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startover22 agrees: It shows that you are a good man Tal.....so happy to hear it!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 10, 2007, 05:21 AM   #44  
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Not all abortions are because men want the girls to have them.
This is true but it stll is murder. No matter what, not you nor I nor anyone else has the right to take the life of another. Abortion is just the worlds way of placing the wrong actions of another on the innocent. Their solution is to rid the situation of the innocent one so the causer of the situation in the first place can do their own thing. Where is the fairness in that kind of solution. Isn't that only fair to those able to protect themselves. What about the helpless human waiting to be born, who protects them?
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iAMfromHuntersBar disagrees: You don't think abortion is fair, I don't think branding millions of women 'Murderers' is either!
NeedKarma disagrees: Calling women murderers is scandalous.
J_9 disagrees: Apparently you have not researched the necessity for medical abortions in certain circumstances.
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 10, 2007, 05:24 AM   #45  
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How far back do you want to take this argument then?
When the egg begins dividing?
When the sperm reaches the egg and begins fertilization?
The point of ejaculation?
The point where the egg and sperm are created?

Is the morning-after pill murder? Is wearing a condom? How about having a vasectomy?

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shatteredsoul agrees: Good point! The slippery slope argument is always a good way to point out hippocrisy!
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 10, 2007, 07:17 AM   #46  
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Hope, you cannot murder something that is not conscious. There is not evidence that a fetus can feel pain until 24-28 weeks.

I agree with the post above. When does it stop becoming murder? Are the billions of men who masturbate murderers? A sperm could turn into a life, too, so is each ejaculation of semen a massacre?

When it comes down to it, it is better for society to allow abortion; however, I do agree that we should do all we can to prevent abortion through education.

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iAMfromHuntersBar agrees: "is each ejaculation of semen a massacre?" Best thing I've heard all day ... and a very good point!
shatteredsoul agrees: So true, we can judge and criticize or we can teach and educate people how to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies
Hope12 disagrees: How about taking care of the cause of the problem and not taking the life of the unborn?
J_9 agrees: Spilling sperm can be considered a sin in some religions. It is true, and I have seen it for myself that a 24 week infant does not feel pain. You get the triple SNAP this time
 
 
     
 
 
Old Sep 10, 2007, 08:19 AM   #47  
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Hope, while you are entitled to your belief that a clump of cells is a valid human being--it is just that, a BELIEF.

I personally believe that until that clump of cells is a fetus, and is viable outside of its mothers body, that it is JUST A CLUMP OF CELLS.

I am trying desperately to get pregnant. I placed a child for adoption. I STILL believe that choosing abortion is no more callous and selfish in some cases than choosing to get cancer removed from your body. When one chooses abortion they are choosing to get rid of a GROWTH that is UNWANTED and can affect one's health and sanity.

I am not imposing my beliefs on you. If you don't want an abortion, by all means don't get one. I didn't get one either, because I thought that little life should have a chance. I don't, however, run around imposing my beliefs on other people because I disagree with them. Legal abortion = SAFE abortion, and there are enough valid reasons to get an abortion that it needs to stay legal. Of course some people abuse that--just like people abuse the Welfare System. That doesn't mean it should be gotten rid of entirely because SOME people abuse it.

If you don't like abortion - GREAT! It's a free country, and luckily, you can believe what you want.

If you start trying to make it illegal, I'll be forced to stand up to you and fight to keep it legal.

As to your argument that women who choose abortion are murderers--are you going to start putting them on trial for that? And if that's the case, are you going to try women who have miscarried for manslaughter (which is, of course, accidental death)?

You can not possibly imagine what goes through the mind of a woman who chooses abortion. Please stop assuming that everyone is just aborting fetuses left and right because it's "inconvenient". Every woman I know that has had an abortion, did it for health reasons.

I'll pray for you, since you obviously have problems with the whole idea that God will judge men and women for their hard choices, not you.

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Chery agrees: Way to go girl. This is sensible and more down-to-earth.
 
 
     
 
 
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I remember driving by an abortion clinic with people standing outside with their signs and their retoric and full of rage. I stopped and tried to see what the commotion was. They were all trying to stop a woman from entering the clinic and she was crying so hard. I had to get out of my car and defend her. This situation frightened and appalled me. These people were so cruel and angry. I don't know how they can preach in God's name. IT IS NOT AN EASY DECISION FOR ANYONE TO MAKE. Being a parent is the most difficult and challenging thing that anyone can ever do. To dictate your beliefs and your values to others is not only counterproductive, it is also often hurtful. NOt only do you disagree with abortion, but you put everyone who has one in the same category. If one does believe that life begins at conception, that is an OPINION> If one doesn't it is a different OPINION. We are not going to change our beliefs because of YOUR OPINIONS. IF you want to save someone, than help the children that are already alive without parents. There are plenty of them around to choose from. Trying to have control over someone's else body, that is the most invasive and unhealthy thing to do. You have a right to your beliefs, so do those that think and choose differently. God gave us our own bodies, and our own ability to decide what to do with them. There are limits to what is appropriate and what is ethical. The standard by which you apply it, is subject to each individual's perception of what they believe in. Nobody is saying abortion is the answer, we are saying it is an option that has been used since the beginning of time and to ensure the safety of women, we must keep it safe and legal. Women will abort babies whether they are legal or not. It isn't a matter of opinion, it is a fact. That fact makes it our responsibility to make sure it is done in a way that is safe for the woman, and that it occurs BEFORE viability.
 
 
     
 
 
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Hope, you still have not answered this question. Is it murder if the child will be born dead? Don't you believe that in medical situations that it sometimes may be necessary?

See the baby in this picture? It is a real baby with absolutely NO chance for survival.

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Let me ask if aborting a fetus with anecephaly is considered murder. Anecephaly is a cephalic disorder that results from a neural tube defect that occurs when the cephalic (head) end of the neural tube fails to close, usually between the 23rd and 26th day of pregnancy, resulting in the absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp. Infants with this disorder are born without a forebrain, the largest part of the brain consisting mainly of the cerebral hemispheres (which include the isocortex, which is responsible for higher level cognition. The remaining brain tissue is often exposed - not covered by bone or skin.

These children typically do not live one hour after birth, if they live this long.

Is this murder if the woman chooses abortion then?

Does no one believe there may be medical reasons for abortion?



Is it murder to have an abortion when you know that this baby will not live but a few hours at most?
 
 
     
 
 
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I think its very clear that there can be some valid reasons for terminating a pregnancy, and we must also recognise that there are some very selfish ones also. They shoot horses to keep them from suffering, and doctors can go to prison for helping the terminally ill die painlessly with dignity. Life may not have the same value to all and it may not be fair to label all females that have abortions murderers, but I think the facts will support that most of them, the selfish or foolish ones, can wear the label, and I can make no excuses for that, that they have brought knowingly on themselves. My apology for broadbrushing ALL females.
 
 
     


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