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My youngest daughter called this evening and told me she was thinking about signing up with Fortune Hi Tech Marketing. My question is this; Are they a good online company, or just another scam?
She wants to try to make some extra money with an online company and do it from home in her spare time.
I've gone to their wesite and it seems legite but haven't been able to locate how much money they want at signup. I'm worried she'll get ripped off and my wife has told her to really check it out before agreeing to anything. So, is there anybody out there that can help? I'd really like to forward any info you can give, good or bad, so she'll make a good decision.
Now before you even think about legal action it is extremely important that you get your terms right.
They can happily sue me for SLANDER, I'll even give you my contact information to that end.
Anyway this DOESN'T detract from the fact that FHTM has all the look and feel of a classic MLM operation.
Call it what you will and dress it up however you want, it's all the same.
The poor schmuck at the bottom does ALL the work for little reward UNLESS he can recruit people for a level BELOW him.
Thanks for the correction. It looks like you understood me. Nevertheless my questions still stand: How long have you been in business? What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
For further reading please get a copy of last month's issue of "Success from Home" magazine.
You really don't seem to fully understand the concept of MLM. I'd be more than glad to bring you up to date if you wish.
Thanks for the correction. It looks like you understood me. Nevertheless my questions still stand: How long have you been in business? What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
Ok I'll play for a bit.
1/ Long enough
2/ Common sense
3/ All of them.
Now please this isn't a recruitment campaign for what ever MLM is the flavour of the minute.
If you would take the time to read some other similar posts on the site you will find that this style of post crops up again and again.
Easy Riches are always promised, but on deeper digging the picture isn't so rosy.
There is a saturation point to ANY MLM operation that is reached relatively quickly and the only way to ensure continual growth is to proactivly recruit others.
Remember the says That All That Glitters Is NOT Gold and If It Sounds To Good To Be True It Probably Is.
How long have you been in business? Much longer than you have.
What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? I have been on the internet since its inception, around 1989. I have helped spot dubious business proposals soon after that.
How many years of network marketing do you have behind you? None (thank goodness), but I have seen many others lose money and they have told me their stories.
We don't use our personal phone numbers because of number of prank callers. This has forced us to use message numbers. A common practice in this industry, I'm sure you're aware of this. No I am not aware of this. I know of no legitimate business that is frightened of prank callers.
FHTM has a top notch legal department that is poised to sue anyone what slanders the company. The fact that you immediate response is to use legal action puts you in the same league as Scientology. And we all know how legit they are. If you are doing this then you obviously are running scared because you have something to hide.
Ok I'll play for a bit.
1/ Long enough
2/ Common sense
3/ All of them.
Now please this isn't a recruitment campaign for what ever MLM is the flavour of the minute.
If you would take the time to read some other similar posts on the site you will find that this style of post crops up again and again.
Easy Riches are always promised, but on deeper digging the picture isn't so rosy.
There is a saturation point to ANY MLM operation that is reached relatively quickly and the only way to ensure continual growth is to proactivly recruit others.
Remember the says That All That Glitters Is NOT Gold and If It Sounds To Good To Be True It Probably Is.
I never tell anyone it's easy. In fact I stress the fact that work is involved. It does take work, but then what doesn't? Jobs take work and offer very little in reward. Work 40 hours a week for 40 years then take a major cut in pay when you retire. Someone else decides when you get a raise and when you can take a day off. You have little or nothing to say about it. If one of your kids is sick and has to go to the doctor you have to ask permission to take time off to make sure your child can be seen by a doctor. In some cases it's a supervisor several years younger than you with him mind on reading his MySpace account or what new video MTV will be showing that evening. Now that's what I call a scam!
We definitely have a difference of opinion regarding Network Marketing. It's working great for me and my team. We're very happy and have made many people happy with their new futures. Some of us have already reached the "rich" status and are currently helping other get there too. This type of business isn't for everyone. Indeed it's clear that it's not for you. Likewise, jobs aren't for me. I've had some and didn't like 'em. Working for myself sure is nice. The business model is simple, the work isn't easy. It's not a get rich quick scheme. Anyone that says so is simply not telling the truth. Success in network marketing can take 3 to 5 years if it's done right. Yes, you can get rich in network marketing.
The web sites you cited are far from credible. A vast majority of the posts are based on opinion only, very few if any facts. In fact scam.com may very well qualify as a scam. I surprised you haven't come to that conclusion by now.
Yes, I have heard people say "If it sounds too good to be true it is" but I've never heard a rich person say that.
I won't waste you time trying to convert you. I have years of experience in networking marketing and learned long ago that when someone makes up their mind about something no one will change it.
Be well my friend. I wish you well in whatever you pursue.
How long have you been in business? Much longer than you have.
What kind of answer is that? Please tell me how long I've been in business.
What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? I have been on the internet since its inception, around 1989. I have helped spot dubious business proposals soon after that.
I worked on the internet in a government facility long before it became public. I wasn't just "on the internet" I actually worked on it before the world wide web was developed and data was being transmitted via telnet and ftp in the 70's. Looks like we have a similar background in that area.
How many years of network marketing do you have behind you? None (thank goodness), but I have seen many others lose money and they have told me their stories.
I thought so. Most critics have limited or no experience in the field. I know there are people on the internet that are scams but I'm not about to assume that everyone on the internet is a scam artist. That would only be silly. It only takes an hour or so to learn about network marketing from someone that is in the business and successful. Sitting down with someone like that would allow you to ask all the questions you have. Anyone with an open mind should be able to handle something like that. Post a message on your local Craigslist and I'm sure someone would be more than glad to take the time to discuss this issue with you. Network marketing has been around for over 50 years and has survived critics all this time.
Yes, there are some businesses out there that hide behind the title of network marketing or mlm that are scams. Of course that's true in any line of business. It's hard to feel comfortable buying a car from a used car dealer due to all the scams in that business. That doesn't mean all car dealers are scams does it?
I dunno. I went to the website, and I didn't see anything about product and services..... I don't know what they sell, if anything.. If I was interested is working, I'd kinda want to know what work I'd be doing... They don't tell you. I wonder why.
Yes Excon this is the verry first red flag of a marketing company, when all the are selling on thier web site if the right to sell thier product but don't tell you what the product is. Heck at least that other company we talk about alot tells us on thier site what they sell.
I beleive they market the right to sign other people up to market the right to market people.
Maybe we should "sell" rights to use this site or something, set up a marketing plan where we get paid to sign up new members. Then all the admin people here would be super rich, could do the site form some island they buy off the coast.
Gee folks, this isn't rock science. The web site is very simple to understand. Go to FortuneHeadquarters.com and look at the menu bar on the left hand side of the page. It's the black bar with gold buttons. The 3rd button from the top reads "Fortune Products". Move your pointer over that button and click on it. You can see all the products/services we offer and you can also buy them there.
As for what you need to do just go to the same menu bar and click on the image at the top of the menu that reads "SEE PRESENTATION".
It's all there. Thank you Fr_Chuck for casting the first stone without looking at where the stone was being cast.
If this business isn't for you I completely understand. Just get ready to go to work for the man for the rest of your adult life and enjoy our 2 weeks of annual vacation.
Gambiling - many people lose a little, a few win alot.
Network Marketing - many people spend a little, a few make alot.
Network Marketing - always based on some good (health, clean, etc.) feel product. In recent times has proved to be a cost effective means for large companies to market their products. No downside for the large companies, so they sign up. It's all economics.
I think people should educate themselves - arts, literature, sciences, engineering, philosophy, theology, politics, psychology, etc. and get job, start a business, provide a service, make something that really adds value to life.
It is a Godly to work hard at something you love and that really helps people. It is un-Godly to work for the love of money and earn simply by taking advantage of others. Just because a system provides economic benefit to large corporations and is "legal" doesn't make it ethical. Network marketing (pyramid schemes) will alway be legal, like gambling, because there aren't "big" losers, just lots of "little" losers. Pyramid schemes are mostly harmless but philosophically I question their ethics.
Network marketing (pyramid schemes) will alway be legal, like gambling, because there aren't "big" losers, just lots of "little" losers. Pyramid schemes are mostly harmless but philosophically I question their ethics.
Pyramid schemes, a business model where only the people at the to make all the money. Sounds like corporate America to me. How many businesses exist where an employee makes more money they their supervisor? Churches are a pyramid. Pastor, associate Pastors, Deacons, and on down the line. Government, same thing. Families, Parents are at the top of the pyramid. Work place, pyramid.. The pyramid is not a bad thing. It's bad in a business that is MLM but not all MLMs work that way. FHTM allows members to excel beyond their sponsors. My son has past the 5 people above him in earnings.
Not all MLMs are bad. It's true that 80 percent of MLMs will fail within the first year but guess what? The same is true for any small business. In fact the failure rate is higher in the restaurant business! It more in the hight 90 percentile! Does that mean all small business are scams? Does that mean that all restaurants are a scam? NO! It just means that only 10 percent of people belong in business. When someone joins a MLM and fails a majority of the time it's because that person failed to follow directions.
I don't believe that anyone can make money by doing nothing! MLMs, just like any other business requires work! I don't think it's evil to desire money. In fact the Bible has something to say about that: "But remember the Lord your God, for it is he who give you the ability to produce wealth..." Dt. 8:18 God wants us to be blessed in order to be a blessing to others. This requires us to work for it, not just pray and sit there until manna falls from heaven. It doesn't work that way. "Faith without deeds is dead" James 2:26
If it's bad to desire wealth then should everyone quit their jobs? Of course not! Is $6.00 an hour wealth? In a majority of the world, yes it is! A wealthy person can do a lot of good. Ask any pastor where the majority of his church's donations come from. He will tell you that 20 percent of the members give 80 percent of the offerings. A majority of that 20 percent are business owners or wealthy people. Go ahead, ask! I've asked many pastors and that's the answer I keep getting. Rich people carry the local church. There isn't anything wrong with that. I asked a local business man about his giving thousands of dollars to his church and other churches too. He told me: "I simply can't out give God, the more I give the more he blesses me." He understands where his success comes from and shares his wealth with the churches in his community.
I just can't agree with your comments. I'm in the MLM business and I know how it works. Not by what someone's know-it-all brother-in-law but from personal experience. A person will get as much out of MLM as he puts into it. No work, no money. Lots of work, lots of money. Hey, it's a business. It requires work. If someone doesn't like work then he has no business in any type of business, not just MLM! Lazy people don't make money.
Thanks for you time. May God bless you, He certainly blesses me!
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