I thought it was really interesting all the different information that everyone had that disproved Jesus as a real person. I thought it would a good idea if we collect what we have so we can use it later if needed.
Specifically I'm looking for more information about the tale of Horus and what information we have on who the men were that wrote the first gospels?

Fr_Chuck

Why would they disprove something they don't believe in, scared to admit the truth most likely, the more they try, they can never prove He is not real, merley that they just don't believe.

progunr

No one can PROVE that Jesus wasn't real.

No one can PROVE that Jesus was real.

If you just want to stir the pot, how about a different subject?

michealb

I don't see what the problem is I didn't post this under the Christianity thread, I posted this in the myths section. I didn't ask for Christian input why did you feel the need to come and insult me in the very first post? Are you that threated by what might be said here? That we might gather enough information that a reasonable person would look at it and say hmm Jesus probably was myth.

Your insult doesn't even make sense for most atheists. Most live their life better than most Christians according to the Christians own rules except for the accepting Jesus part. Why would it require bravery to go along with the majority. If your going to insult me in the future at least try to make more sense.

Fr_Chuck

No, just thought you might like to know how it fees when you and others with no faith, post on subjects they don't beleive in.
And to be honest for the same reason you posted this, most likely to see what you could stir up.

workerbee

You have to watch it Michelb, This thread will be closed if you don't word it just right.
There is info on what you want from the books of D.M Murdock , Robert price and a few others, Acharya S is the pen name for D M murdock and she authored the first part of the movie Zeitgeist, She wanted to make it clear that she has no connection with the preposterous Part II, or the boring (but probably true) Part III. ( her words) Her book might be the best to find a list of the Sun Gods and i think it is a good idea. You also might find that info on her website Truth Be Known Home I have not had time to look at it though

is this the section where us atheists can hang out? there isn't an Athiest section

workerbee

BMI

I have no issue with the "purpose" of this thread. If you opened it to gather information about a subject in which your curious than that is your right. Good on you.

HOWEVER, the timing of it stinks of something, also posting it under folk and mythology is rude and can be taken as a pathetic slight.

The content and desire to learn is not what is wrong here, the intention seems shady at best.

michealb

This seemed to be the most fitting category given the question. I did reopen the topic because I did want to see what other people had as far as information on this. However I did want to keep the arguments away which is why I titled it as such to get a view point from people who don't believe in Jesus, but apparently that doesn't work.

Workerbee,

Thanks for the link I hadn't seen that one before. I'll have to read more of it when I get more time.

Cattie999

I know a few points that i have heard about how the existence of Jesus could be false.
It was a while ago i read it, so my information is not detailed.
Something about the existence of Jesus happening around the time when the Pisces moon cycle occurred. And each of the world messiahs came into existence around the time when the moon entered a new "age" if thats what you'd call it. It was like a...tradition
Thats why often people have a fish sign to represent jesus, it represents Pisces.
Also, the story of the three wise men and other stories are about stars.
Around the time that Jesus was said to come into existence a consolation of three stars called the wise men were "following" a comet that was said to be very bright.
There was also a story about another man, who lived previous to jesus who is documented.
His name was very similar to jesus and he is said to have done many things like Jesus himself eg feed thousands of two fish and some bread.
I also know that the only philosopher in Jerusalem at the time wrote a diary of everything that was happening in the city and that in it there was no mention of Jesus.

If I remember where i saw this information i will come back with more information, it seemed well researched yet it could all just be biased.
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And yeah, i just read it was Zeitgeist where i got this from.
Someone above already remembered.
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michealb

Interesting so thats why all the religious people put the little fish thing on their car. I had know idea what they were suppose to mean.