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Old Dec 8, 2007, 08:52 PM
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The Golden Compass

like in a way i kind of understood the movie but then again i didnt but like can someone explain like why ppl like its anit-religion and pro-atheisim like wat in the movie protrayed that

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Old Dec 9, 2007, 12:02 AM   #2  
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wait, what? I don't understand what you're saying. I don't mean to be rude, but the lack of punctuation and overuse of the word "like" are making it extremely hard to understand the question. You ask why people like an aspect of the movie, and then are you asking something else? Is this two questions? Can you maybe word it better?

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Old Dec 9, 2007, 12:53 AM   #3  
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I am not sure if I am actually answering this question the way you may have intended it to be answered?

From my understanding, the author wrote three books. Each book is intended to be made into a movie. The author is an atheist, his intent is to subtly make his point that there is no God and we don't need one. The first book hits the subject with a lot of action and fantasy. His intent is to hammer this point in the other two books and movies.

Personally I have a problem with not only his method of delivery and his blatant pushing of his opinions, but that he is camouflaging his intentions and beliefs. He is tailoring his books and the movie/s to children.....not good.
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I am not sure if I am actually answering this question the way you may have intended it to be answered?

From my understanding, the author wrote three books. Each book is intended to be made into a movie. The author is an atheist, his intent is to subtly make his point that there is no God and we don't need one. The first book hits the subject with a lot of action and fantasy. His intent is to hammer this point in the other two books and movies.

Personally I have a problem with not only his method of delivery and his blatant pushing of his opinions, but that he is camouflaging his intentions and beliefs. He is tailoring his books and the movie/s to children.....not good.
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wait, what? I don't understand what you're saying. I don't mean to be rude, but the lack of punctuation and overuse of the word "like" are making it extremely hard to understand the question. You ask why people like an aspect of the movie, and then are you asking something else? Is this two questions? Can you maybe word it better?
Jeeze My Bad I Was In A Hurry When I Typed It, And Since I Am So Illiterate I Am So Sorry

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Old Dec 9, 2007, 07:20 PM   #6  
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I don't understand why this movie has gotten everyone so upset, I mean they made that christian movie about Jesus and you didn't see all the non believers going nuts. Anyways we, well I live in america where we are suposed to be free to believe what ever we want which is why America exist. I haven't seen the movie but I plan to take my mother and my cousin to see it.
PS: why does everyone always complain about grammer and spelling I totaly understood what lex said.
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zyi, If you're referring to "The Passion" there was a ton of controversy over that movie. However, it was not aimed for kids. People went to that movie knowing full and well what it was and who it was for. But this movie, aimed for children, sends subliminal messages to children that there is no God. That is something a child needs to decide for themselves, and introducing them to something like this at such a young age when their minds are still developing is wrong. It's a whole new way of pushing your opinion on other people. If it had been made for adults, that would be a different story, adults are able to think for themselves and make their own decisions, children make decisions based on what they see and hear. We do live in America, and the writer has the right to do whatever they like, but the movie should have been made for an older more mentally developed audience. Like you said we should be free to believe whatever we want, well the point of this movie is for the author to manipulate children to believe what he believes. Should that be happening in America?

oh, and the grammar part, I wasn't sure where one question ended and the other began, if there were even 2 questions. But if you understood it, that's fine. I just wanted a clearer explanation so I could maybe answer the question correctly.
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But this movie, aimed for children, sends subliminal messages to children that there is no God. That is something a child needs to decide for themselves, and introducing them to something like this at such a young age when their minds are still developing is wrong.

But the religious organisations have been doing this for years nigh centuries! I remember being given a children's bible of watered down bible stories with colourful pictures, taking part in nativity plays, and reading the Chronicles of Narnia. The latter being exactly the same to Christianity as the Golden Compass is the atheism.

But in the same token I absolutely agree with you, no children should never be targeted and recruited to a set of beliefs in any way. However it happens and at least now they are beginning to receive a more balanced range of opinions, not just whatever their parents have decided is best.
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zyi, If you're referring to "The Passion" there was a ton of controversy over that movie. However, it was not aimed for kids. People went to that movie knowing full and well what it was and who it was for. But this movie, aimed for children, sends subliminal messages to children that there is no God. That is something a child needs to decide for themselves, and introducing them to something like this at such a young age when their minds are still developing is wrong. It's a whole new way of pushing your opinion on other people. If it had been made for adults, that would be a different story, adults are able to think for themselves and make their own decisions, children make decisions based on what they see and hear. We do live in America, and the writer has the right to do whatever they like, but the movie should have been made for an older more mentally developed audience. Like you said we should be free to believe whatever we want, well the point of this movie is for the author to manipulate children to believe what he believes. Should that be happening in America?

oh, and the grammar part, I wasn't sure where one question ended and the other began, if there were even 2 questions. But if you understood it, that's fine. I just wanted a clearer explanation so I could maybe answer the question correctly.

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Old Dec 10, 2007, 04:21 AM   #10  
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But the religious organisations have been doing this for years nigh centuries! I remember being given a children's bible of watered down bible stories with colourful pictures, taking part in nativity plays, and reading the Chronicles of Narnia. The latter being exactly the same to Christianity as the Golden Compass is the atheism.

But in the same token I absolutely agree with you, no children should never be targeted and recruited to a set of beliefs in any way. However it happens and at least now they are beginning to receive a more balanced range of opinions, not just whatever their parents have decided is best.

This is true, but the bibles and plays were something your parents gave you/ had you participate in, yes? I think it's ok for parents to introduce their children to these things if they would like. A lot of parents base their parenting on the bible, and other religious aspects. Introducing their children to the same belief system they have makes their parenting stronger, and gives them a basis to back up their rules. As far as I know atheists don't have a belief system (sorry I don't have a lot of knowledge on that topic, I just know they don't believe in God) and if that's the case, there's no need to introduce a child to it. Let them have a little faith before they decide for themselves if they want it or not.

As for the Chronicles of Narnia, I never read the books, my sister tried to read them to me but I could never really follow along. I did however, love the cartoon version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. But I never realized until someone told me that it had anything to do with religion, and being somewhat little I had to think pretty hard about it to realize it was there.

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