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orange · May 1, 2006, 11:20 AM

This isn't a question; I just wanted to share with all of you this new experimental treatment for depression that is currently under study here in Canada:

CTV.ca | Lighting the Darkness

So far it has been quite successful in helping those with severe chronic depression. It strengthens my belief that depression is biological. My husband, who is a family physician and currently studying to be a neuro-psychiatrist, is very interested in this and hoping to go to Toronto at some point to participate in the study.

And yes I just had my baby Noah, he's beautiful!! :) :) :)

We just came home this morning. My parents are here doing most of the work, so I can just sit back and admire him! :) :) :)

RickJ · May 1, 2006, 12:59 PM

Congrat's, Chava! - And welcome to Air, Noah!

Very interesting on the surgical depression treatment. I, as researchers are, am cautious. Making changes to the brain are currently physical (as in a lobotomy), or chemical (drugs): it will be interesting where this procedure will fall as far as 1. how other professionals/researchers label it, and 2. what it's long term results are.

I'll keep my eyes peeled on it.

jurplesman · May 1, 2006, 09:54 PM

Having spent most of my professional life in the mental health care industry, I am very suspicious of any invasive new psychiatric inventions, that no doubt will attract many investors.

I am into the Nutritional treatment of mental Illness. I would suggest that you ask your husband investigate fully the nutritional aspect of mental illness and particularly depression before embarking on either drug or surgical procedures.

Please ask him to read:

Depression: a Disease of Energy Production.

We need neurotransmitters to pass electricity from one neuron to another and treating serotonin deficiency would appear to be a much simpler procedure than implanting pace makers in people's brains.

milliec · May 1, 2006, 11:23 PM

This is just to welcome you and Noah, back home and here!
Millie:)

orange · May 2, 2006, 10:47 AM

I agree with you Rick about feeling cautious... personally, I wouldn't want to have the procedure done unless all else had failed. (Actually, those are the people they are working on at present - those for whom all other treatments have failed). Still though, I think it's exciting. There's so much about the brain we don't know. And I am so tired of people saying depression is a matter of willpower or a character flaw of some kind. My friend's sister has had what they call psychotic depression for over 10 years now, and in spite of a great family, support, counselling, trying every kind of medication and alternative therapy AND electroshock therapy, she still tries to kill herself about twice a year. If this therapy could work on her it would be a miracle.

I wish you guys could see the documentary that CTV made on this experimental procedure. It was on a show we have here in Canada called W-FIVE. It explains and shows the procedure, films part of the actual surgery done on this woman who had untreatable depression for 12 years. The change in her was really amazing.

jurplesman · May 2, 2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by orange

My friend's sister has had what they call psychotic depression for over 10 years now, and in spite of a great family, support, counselling, trying every kind of medication and alternative therapy AND electroshock therapy, she still tries to kill herself about twice a year. If this therapy could work on her it would be a miracle.

But I bet you they have not tried the Nutritional Treatment as explained in

Depression: a Disease of Energy Production.

There seems to be a great resistance to treat the cause of depression by simple nutritional means.

Please research:

“Nutrition and Depression”

orange · May 4, 2006, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by jurplesman

But I bet you they have not tried the Nutritional Treatment as explained in

Depression: a Disease of Energy Production.

There seems to be a great resistance to treat the cause of depression by simple nutritional means.

I'm not sure. I know she used to see a naturopathic doctor, for a couple of years, and followed his diet and vitamin plan, but she didn't get much relief there. She also tried Chinese medicine and a myriad of other alternative medicines. I will forward the link on to her to see if it's something she might want to try.

jurplesman · May 5, 2006, 08:21 PM

When I talk about Nutritional Therapy I mean a completely new approach by CAM doctors, who usually test patients very carefully to find the exact biological cause of depression. I use total Nutritional Therapy.