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    Aug 10, 2011, 04:31 PM
    Should "heavy growth" of candida in lungs be treated?
    A lung biopsy report stated "heavy growth" of candida albicans in my lungs. Does this mean it's in the bloodstream, or could it move to the bloodstream or other organs from the lungs? Should it be treated? Doctor who did the biopsy told me all the reports were okay, so I did not know about it until I obtained a copy of the report. I am 69, diabetic, have frequent vaginal yeast infections, have adult onset asthma (no doubt from smoking, but no real trouble breathing till this past year). I have had a productive cough for a long time, was treated for pneumonia last fall (including antibiotic), find it increasingly hard to breathe with any exertion (and sometimes otherwise). I will greatly appreciate input, as I have searched online without finding anything understandably conclusive. The Infectious Diseases Society guidelines say it's not treated if it's found in a mucousal specimen, but this was found in a lung tissue specimen - info seems to say that would be treated like disseminated candida, whatever that means (I'm not familiar with the technical language). Thank you, Ann
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    Aug 10, 2011, 05:18 PM

    I for one would have this treated by a doctor who knows what he is going. Your breathing can and will get worse as the yeast keeps growing inside your lungs. Why wait until it's gotten so out of hand you'll have a worse time getting rid of it. And yes, it IS throughout your body by now via the bloodstream.
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    Aug 10, 2011, 06:44 PM
    Candida albicans is a touchy subject, with most of the medical establishment at odds with alternative groups. I would spend hours, days, on research online and be careful believing everything you read. Bacteria, fungi and yeast are everywhere around us, on us, and inside us, and it's when we are immunosupressed that we don't live in balance with them.

    Maybe get a second opinion.

    Plan on many more problems as long as you keep smoking. I'm amazed that you say that you had 'no trouble breathing until last year' as though all the many ways you are being damaged didn't start until then and somehow aren't part of all this. EVERY part of us is part of everything right and wrong with us.
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    Aug 11, 2011, 09:31 AM

    You need a specialist to get this out of your system. Forgot about the smoking. That you need to quit asap!! I have lung problems from being in a house fire back in 1974 and I haven't been the same since lungwise.

    I too am amazed that your doctor is being so laid back about all this yeast overgrowth of yours and discouraging any treatment!

    Check on who specializes in this problem in your area and make an appointment. Even if you have to travel to another state to see a specialist it would be worth it.
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    Apr 5, 2012, 03:47 PM
    You had better treat this. The fungicides, when they work at all, cause mutatoons that cannot be treated - so - no cure. Also they are very toxic.

    I almost died from this ailment and was saved by taking potassium iodide (Lugol's solution). It is an old-fashioned cure and costs practically nothing. It kills the fungi (the so-called "fungicides" merely control them). There are no side effects. Good luck.
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    Apr 6, 2012, 05:41 AM
    Thank you for this information! My dr has been dismissive.
    Is the potassium iodide something I can get without a prescription? If so, what is the dosage?
    Could you tell me what symptoms you had? Besides lots of mucous (various qualities) and some breathing difficulties, I have much pain through my body, and I wonder if it's related. If I weren't taking inhalant for asthma, I'd likely be in more trouble.
    Thanks so much, Ann
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    Apr 6, 2012, 01:05 PM
    An overgrowth of Candida abicans can eat away at lung tissue an cause scarring. It is often the treatment for asthma or emphysema that actually causes the overgrowth. Prednisone, inhaled steroids and antibiotics are food for candida. So is an acid condition of the lungs. Even albuterol causes harm because it is very acid and makes a happy home for candida and all other gungi and yeasts.

    Given your symptoms you probably have systemic candidiasis. This is easy to determine. Ask you doctor to take a blood test for this purpose. If he refuses change doctors. Ultmately the mortality for lungs infested with Candida albicans is 50 per cent.

    I was taken to the hospital with almost paralytic fatigue and remained undiagnosed. By chance I had taken a small dose of potassium iodide (Lugol's solution) to ease my insomnia. That is what saved me. When I noticed the fatigue was abating I upped the dosage of iodine and improved yet again. Iodine kills almost all pathogens, and that includes candida.

    I went back to my lung doctor, who is fortunately not dismissive, and told him I thought I had systemic candidiasis. Although he had his doubts he had me tested and, because such a condition would be very serious, prescribed a fungicide without waiting for the rest results. They came back positive.

    Meanwhile I had done my own research and the information I found on fungicides was not promising. But what I found on iodine was. So I upped the dosage and my symptoms began to lessen. I upped the dosage again. I started using 3 drops of Lugol's 5% per week. That initial low dosage is probably what saved me, although it did not cure me. I then raised the dosage to 5 drops per week, then 7, then 14, and now I am at 21. By the way, the drops are spread out through the week. If you take three drops, then you will take one on Monday, one on Wednesday, and one on Friday. If you take 21, then you will take 3 per day. Put the drops in half a glass of water and add fruit juice if desired.

    Check out what I have said on the internet. Traditional medicine will not support what I am doing even though I am very successful, and they are not. Alternative medicine MD's will support me. Sometimes very large dosages are recommended. I am a little cautious in this regard. Also I intend to have my doctor do repeat blood tests to check my progress.
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    Apr 6, 2012, 02:43 PM
    Thanks again for the information. I'm guessing I could obtain this OTC?
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    Apr 6, 2012, 09:01 PM
    Lugol's can be gotten at a drug store. Nowadays they are offering 2% or 2.2%, so you would have to make the necessary adjustments since I am using 5%. I think you can get 5% on the internet.
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    Apr 7, 2012, 06:05 AM
    Thanks!
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    Feb 26, 2013, 01:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by allmymarbles View Post
    An overgrowth of Candida abicans can eat away at lung tissue an cause scarring. It is often the treatment for asthma or emphysema that actually causes the overgrowth. Prednisone, inhaled steroids and antibiotics are food for candida. So is an acid condition of the lungs. Even albuterol causes harm because it is very acid and makes a happy home for candida and all other gungi and yeasts.

    Given your symptoms you probably have systemic candidiasis. This is easy to determine. Ask you doctor to take a blood test for this purpose. If he refuses change doctors. Ultmately the mortality for lungs infested with Candida albicans is 50 per cent.

    I was taken to the hospital with almost paralytic fatigue and remained undiagnosed. By chance I had taken a small dose of potassium iodide (Lugol's solution) to ease my insomnia. That is what saved me. When I noticed the fatigue was abating I upped the dosage of iodine and improved yet again. Iodine kills almost all pathogens, and that includes candida.

    I went back to my lung doctor, who is fortunately not dismissive, and told him I thought I had systemic candidiasis. Although he had his doubts he had me tested and, because such a condition would be very serious, prescribed a fungicide without waiting for the rest results. They came back positive.

    Meanwhile I had done my own research and the information I found on fungicides was not promising. But what I found on iodine was. So I upped the dosage and my symptoms began to lessen. I upped the dosage again. I started out using 3 drops of Lugol's 5% per week. That initial low dosage is probably what saved me, although it did not cure me. I then raised the dosage to 5 drops per week, then 7, then 14, and now I am at 21. By the way, the drops are spread out through the week. If you take three drops, then you will take one on Monday, one on Wednesday, and one on Friday. If you take 21, then you will take 3 per day. Put the drops in half a glass of water and add fruit juice if desired.

    Check out what I have said on the internet. Traditional medicine will not support what I am doing even though I am very successful, and they are not. Alternative medicine MD's will support me. Sometimes very large dosages are recommended. I am a little cautious in this regard. Also I intend to have my doctor do repeat blood tests to check my progress.
    I have this problem.. and I stared the potassium iodide.. did you experience any thyroid dysfunction? This is my biggest fear about this suppliment.. and how long did it take to eliminate the problem completely? I'm almost ready to take a leave of absence from work to go to Shands.. 5 months of fluconazole helped a lot but did not completely eliminate the problem.. Please help me :( thank you
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    Feb 27, 2013, 08:16 AM
    THANK YOU!

    Could you direct me to information that I could show my doctor? And is the test for systemic candiasis simply bloodwork?

    The pulmonologist who did the biopsy was dismissive. My PMD said yeast colonies are normal, that I would be in a hospital if this were systemic, that fugicides have too many side effects. Meanwhile, I have become increasingly exhausted, have a daily productive cough (extremely tacky stuff, often only creamy w no yellow/green). I also deal w chronic centralized pain daily, so the tendency is to attribute everything to that.

    I do take an inhaled corticosteroid and am somewhat fearful about giving that up.

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