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May 11, 2005, 10:18 AM
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| | | Kuta A message specifically for eawoodall but I'd love to hear from anyone else too
Please could you tell me about you experiences of the martial art of Kuta?
I have read in other posts that you have practiced it for years, how did you come across it?
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May 13, 2005, 09:52 AM
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| no i didn't pull the punches (neither did he), after he bounced off the lockers, he smiled.
training exercise helps alot to compose yourself as you follow up. the changing strong side/weak side facing opponent in kenpo karate, or the stepping forward while moving in cat stance 60/40 in TKD.
well it was around 25 years after the incident where i beat him that Dok Lee was asked if he knew me, and Dok Lee was going to keep my identity secret per the privacy act. and since my death has been rumored so many times Dok Lee probably thought i was dead.
or perhaps he forgot my name. or perhaps i did make the mistake of telling him an alias. oh well. whatever. of course not anyone wants to admit being beaten up, much less beaten easily, especially someone they think is new to a martial art. plus i didn't train with Dok Lee i trained with someone else who learned hikuta years before he did. i only saw Dok Lee that once for a few minutes |
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May 13, 2005, 11:11 AM
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| I'll look into these exercises, thanks.
There is a lot of mystery surrounding the history of Kuta:
Ancient Egyptian royal bodyguards, Masonic orders, Knights of the Templar and secret British commandos (being British that last one is my personal favourite  ).
Did your teacher have his/her own ideas about it, or have you perhaps discovered anything about its history over the years? |
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May 13, 2005, 02:57 PM
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| more more i don't see any mystery in it.
history is just what happened.
sometimes life is stranger than fiction.
although i have never heard anything about the templar knights or masonic order having anything to do with kuta. it was passed from egyptian bodyguards to royal asian emporer bodyguards, and kept secret for over a thousand years. betwen the various wars in asia eventually became not as much a secret. because the shela ("sie-la" a region of korea) warriors used it in a battle (similar to the alamo in number of enemy killed per man died). and books were written by duk lee detailing the korean (not, it was in egypt first) royal bodyguard art, among other martial arts known to koreans. he wrote this five volume set in the chinese language, circa 1600? not sure.
so the chinese learned, and the japanese fought with china a few times, so eventually you get watered down, some techniques from kuta in different styles. even england and other nations eventually attained china, and learned the techniques.
i don't want to go in a diatribe. (use dictionary.com if you need it) |
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May 14, 2005, 12:32 PM
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| LOL I see....
This might give you a laugh then: http://p098.ezboard.com/fhikutacomba...ID=165.t opic
Back on the topic of training:
None of the Hikuta training information I have seen (so far) uses any plyometric or resistance training for increasing striking speed/power... if you were teaching someone Hikuta would you suggest they included some weighted or plyometric exercises into their training? |
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May 14, 2005, 07:18 PM
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| more again once again:
i have never heard anything about the templar knights or masonic order having anything to do with kuta.
it was passed from egyptian bodyguards to korean royal asian bodyguards.
kept secret for over a thousand years.
duk lee wrote about it in chinese in five book set, between 1550-1665?
so the chinese learned, and the japanese learned, eventually you get watered down, some techniques from kuta in different styles. even england and other nations conquered china (1800-1850?), and learned the techniques.
kuk sool won(korean martial arts), chin na or cam na(chinese martial art),etc.
actually the web site that you have trained under uses weights/etc.
perhaps it is in another product you have not yet purchased.
i start students without weights. the use of weights to teach momentum, and how inportant momentum is to speed is useful. as well as gaining muscle.
if you know the double kick from TKD (kick with one foot to the front as you become airborne {flying forward}, then kick with the back foot {shifting you weight} to the front {as you continue through the air}, the former back foot becomes the front foot). be careful when training with weights do not overdo!
you do a few (five or so) double kicks, then you add a five pound weight to both ankles {you can take a nap at this point if u want} then do five more, then move both weights to the first kicking leg ankle {you can take a nap at this point if u want}. then do five more, you will see how important momentum is to kicking, if not remove the weights and kick, notice the first leg is slower but builds the speed greatly of the second leg after the heavy weight being only on the first ankle, and also doing 'crane stretches wings' (1 of the 18 classic kung fu exercises) can also help teach moving with momentum (in 'crane stretches wings' you do not move a distance from where you start, in double kick or advancing or retreating in cat stance or kempo you do move, gaining or losing ground, ie getting closer or farther away from target). |
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May 15, 2005, 04:06 PM
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| I'm Confused Mr. Woodall,
I am somewhat confused by your story. Did you ever receive training from DOK Lee? Was Kuta DOK Lee's only art? When you fought DOK Lee, where was it, what was the date, and what was he wearing? What technique did DOK Lee use to counter your fake attack?
Also, I am confused regarding your art. What art did you use to defeat DOK Lee? Whether it was Kuta or some other art, who taught you and where?
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May 15, 2005, 04:48 PM
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| kuta no hikuta was not Dok Lee's only art. golden gloves at boxing i am told, plus other arts are certainly possible, but i only meet Dok Lee for a few minutes.
i did not train under Dok Lee. Dok Lee just recognized that I knew my kuta.
mid 70s. the public school i attended. Dok Lee used boxing to hit me the first series of blows. i used kuta to defeat Dok Lee. my teacher taught me from near birth onward. |
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May 16, 2005, 12:29 AM
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| Your teacher Is your teacher still teaching, or has he passed away? |
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May 16, 2005, 08:17 AM
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| kuta my teacher's teacher has passed away. come to think i did train for a short time on a few occasions with my teacher's teacher. my teacher seldom trained anyone. so my teacher's status is unimportant. |
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May 17, 2005, 05:57 PM
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| Be completely open You have said that your nameless teacher learned Kuta before Dok Lee. You have said that your nameless teacher's teacher has passed away. You have said that your nameless teacher's rank/credentials are unimportant since he no longer teaches. You have said that you began training soon after birth. None of what you have said has any verifiable detail.
Let me come straight to the point. I believe you are being very cryptic because you either have something to hide or need to feel somehow superior. Any true martial artist would willingly provide an instructor lineage with names, locations, and dates when asked, if there was one. This is the one sure way to check authenticity. I have no doubt that you are a martial artist that has read much on several arts (both non-fiction and fiction), but what have you really experienced? That is the question.
I am simply looking out for the many folks on askme. If you are truely what you say, I welcome you. If you are not, just tell it like it is. You obviously have much to offer. It is un-necessary to hide anything here.
I have enough connections in the martial arts world to check credentials. Just email them to me if you want them kept "secret". I'll authenticate them and simply report back to the askme forum--passed or failed.
Let me help you raise the misty curtain of mystery that you have created and start anew in open honesty.
Sincerely,
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