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Old Aug 6, 2006, 07:00 PM
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Everything is falling apart...

Okay...so I don't know exactly where this question belongs so I am putting it here. Please bear in mind that I need any and all points of view here.

My husband told me today about an idea he had about earning money. He said that if he goes to work for a company in another province, he could work for 10 years and then retire at the age of 40. I know this would involve him going away for longer periods of time. However, I didn't know that it meant for 10 years. He said we could all go visit monthly and he might get some time off but for the most part he would be working and I would be here with the kids. As things sit now, he works 2 weeks and gets 1 off, so we wouldn't see him much less.

I talked to him about all of us moving but that would cost more because the cost of living is so much more over there versus here. He hates his current job and doesn't want to do this job for another 20-25 years (I can't really blame him). We did have a plan for retirement (none of the truck driving jobs really offer a retirement or pension plan). We decided when the baby was in school I would go to work and we would bank any money I make but now I wouldn't have to. If we stuck to the plan we would still see eachother less.

We both want to be with eachother, but there is no money for a family of seven when working a local job. Basically his plan gets us money but he is gone almost the entire time.

I guess I just want to know how to feel. This situation feels like it is lose-lose. No matter what we decide there are down sides to it. What would you do? I realize it would be a huge sacrifice either way. One way my kids miss out on their dad and I miss out on my husband and the other way, we both have to work like dogs for the next 25 years (at a job he hates). My heart says the money isn't important but logic tells me that this might not be so bad.

Does anyone have any opinions or ideas?

I just don't know why this idea makes me so sad...but thinking about the first plan doesn't make me feel much better. I feel like everything is falling apart and I really don't know what to do. He said that he wants me to be here for him at the end of all of this but if I didn't think I could stick it out that he would understand. He has decided that this is what he wants for his family.

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Old Aug 7, 2006, 08:31 AM   #11  
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I think we should try it. I don't want him to ever blame me for keeping him from trying something that might make him happier.

Okay, so things don't have to be so bad.
Other people do do this.
We will figure it out.
I can breathe.
I am much more calm now, thank you.

I think there are a lot of things to think about and when first approached by a new idea, everything started reeling around in my head and I actually thought I was going to be sick. I know part of it was his attitude. He had this I don't give a crap attitude and I take that very personally. I thought we were in it together and when he says stuff like "if you're here at the end of ten years then great, and if not, then I will understand" really threw me. That doesn't sound committed.

Now I realize that I may have over reacted. We talked for many hours last night and I feel better. Now this morning after reading the great answers, I realize I am stronger than I give myself credit for. Thanks so much.

Val, I just might take you up on your offer of support with time and figuring that out. You are great.

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orange agrees: So glad you're feeling a bit better!
valinors_sorrow agrees: Me too glad its falling into better perspective for you Aqua and I like Chava's research too.
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Old Aug 7, 2006, 08:55 AM   #12  
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aqua, tell your husband yes we all might hate our jobs but he needs to stop thinking of hisself and think of those precious children you both have to raise together not apart. net

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aqua@home agrees: Thanks Jnet. I have to remember that he is not thinking of this selfishly. He does want what's best for us, he just doesn't always know what that is. We WILL have to continue to discuss this. Thanks again.
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Its very hard for any man to not want his family to enjoy a good life and even harder if he feels locked in to a job that he truly hates. Thank GOD I had a women I could talk to and discuss my feelings with and together we reached decisions we could both live with. I remember the pressure I found myself in when we first got married and moved into our house and the bills where ..........overwhelming..........I was not happy, so made a choice to return to school and become skilled in something I loved and make more money and be happier at. To this day I don't regret a thing and spend a lot of time in retirement with grandkids and have a lot of fun with my wife. The key was I think was being able to talk honestly with her and listen, as her ideas helped me get where we are at. So glad you two sat and talked to each other and I think If you keep up with each others feelings thru COMMUNICATION you can find a way to overcome anything. Good LUCK.

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aqua@home agrees: Thank you so much for aswering. I really wanted a man's opinion too. I am glad we can talk and we will have to make sure we don't stop.
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Thanks talaniman. I don't always realize the pressures that are put on my husband. I know they are there, but I don't actually experience the pressure to have to hold a job. I wish him going to school was an option, it just isn't.

I have to remember that for our communication to continue, I too have to be open minded. I used to react terribly and I really think that made it hard for him to come to me with issues. I was younger and we have both changed. Last night I was able to tell him, that I will listen, if he has a problem or whatever, he can phone and I will just listen. I tend to be overly emotional, and there isn't always room for that. I am glad that I have received the answers I have, they have definitely helped me to see that maybe it will be alright. Thanks all for your advice.
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aqua, I'm happy to hear you talked with your husband and you to don't mind expressing your feelings to each other, sometimes it can be hard because you don't want to say something that might hurt each other feelings. from what I have read so far it seems like you have a loving husband that just wants whats best for his family and hisself, and sometimes we as the head of the house have to make hard choices that just might effect our family. I hope everything go ok for you and your family and I'll keep you in my prayers.net
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In my opinion, family always comes first. Families should be together on a regular basis ; none of this "part-time" husband and dad stuff. He needs to be there for you and the kids. If he really dislikes his current job that much then why doesn't he just get into a new line of work? Either way, if his current situation puts food on your table, clothes on your backs, a roof over your heads and provides an adequate level of medical care then there's really not much to complain about ; he should just suck it up and do his job until he can be eligible for retirement or afford to pursue an alternate opportunity.
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s cianci...oh, if life were just that simple. A new line of work would require education. I wish we knew what an uneducated 30 year old man can do to support 7 people! I agree that family comes first. What part of the family comes first though? Yes we are fed, clothed and we do have free medical care in Canada. All we are missing is time, which is of course it is just as important as the rest. I don't think this is unlike the choice women have to make when deciding to put their child in childcare (family should come first). Nothing is an easy answer. There is no right or wrong only consequences to our choices.

Thanks Jnet for your support and your prayers.

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Or blessings AQUA, don't forget that part. What we do now can have positive affects later. My wife told me while I was at work she was dragging the babies around her friends, whose husband were at work and tended to her hobbies and just stayed busy doing the little things that made her happy. As the nest emptied she had more time to move around and pursue her interest and ended up with a degree and a paying hobby (photography) and yes her work is All over the house and now my kids who are well adjusted and hard working still come around with the grands and yes we are having the time of our lives that we worked hard for. Remember those kids will grow up and leave the nest, be ready to get your life back.
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s cianci...oh, if life were just that simple. A new line of work would require education. I wish we knew what an uneducated 30 year old man can do to support 7 people! I agree that family comes first. What part of the family comes first though? Yes we are fed, clothed and we do have free medical care in Canada. All we are missing is time, which is of course it is just as important as the rest. I don't think this is unlike the choice women have to make when deciding to put their child in childcare (family should come first). Nothing is an easy answer. There is no right or wrong only consequences to our choices.
Well, what does he do now to support 7 people? If his education and skills are limited then he may just have to go on working the same ole' job that he so hates, unfortunately. What about this new job in the other province? You mentioned that moving is not a viable option because the cost of living is considerably higher there. Are wages for compatible work proportionally higher as well? Often that's the case in that, where costs of living vary, wages vary by essentially a proportional amount. Maybe it'd be worthwhile for your family to relocate there after all. Check into it ; what he'd be making there as opposed to your present location (assuming the same line of work) and investigate the differences in housing costs, insurance costs, utility costs, grocery costs, etc. Even if such a move doesn't make you any better off financially than you are now, if it doesn't make you any worse off either and if your family would be happier living there then it might be worth it.
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Thank you again TALANIMAN. Yes...blessings. I love being able to stay home with our children. There are those days where I feel like I could pull my hair out, but that comes with every job right? I know I will enjoy it when the kids are out of the house. The time is flying and I am trying not to take it for granted. I know I will be sad when they are all gone, but it will be time to move onto another phase of my life. My husband and I were only together for about a year before our first was born and I was 17 when I had her. I think I have so much to do when they are gone. I have so many things I want to experience and so many things I want to try. I am going to try to enjoy now, so I don't regret it in the future. Thanks again.

S CIANCI...well now, he is a long-haul truck driver. It pays well and took minimal skill to start. He is looking at doing the same thing but with an oil company. The wages are much better, we could easily afford to move there. But that is not the point of going. The reason for going would be to make more money to sock away and retire in 10 years. I have looked into insurance, utilities, groceries, etc. and they are for the most part comparable with the wage. If he works there and lives here then we can have more money thus getting him out of a job he hates that much faster. He is already working there but is home more often than he would be with the new job. This is why I am going to look into what Chava suggested, and move to a place less centralized therefore less expensive.

I give my husband credit for what he has done. He stayed with me when we were teenagers and pregnant. He wouldn't let us go on welfare and has busted his a** to support us. He is not perfect but he does love us very much. We are very aware of the situation we put ourselves in and are simply looking at different ways to make it better.

Thank you again for your thoughts.
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