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Is magic real?

Asked Mar 21, 2009, 07:29 AM — 100 Answers
There have been many posts about if magic or spells exist or not so I've made a new post explaining it.

Magic is real. It works by raising, directing and releasing energy to obtain a goal. However, there are those who have tried to cast a spell before and it didn't work and they wonder why or they no longer believe in magic. There are several factors that could have not allowed their spell to work. The #1 reason is that because magic is pure energy, it works by "like attracting like". That means that if you cast a spell then start thinking that it might not work, then it won't. Why should it if you don't believe it? That's why more seasoned Witches have an old saying, which is "Set it and forget it". That means after you cast the spell to forget about it.

Anyway, magic does exist and it is all around us. I'm sure all of us at one point or another have been told "You can do anything you put your mind to". In a nut shell, that is the basis of magic, because magic must first begin in the mind and you must focus your mind on that intent before it becomes reality. Some call that "creative visualization". So yes, magic, spells, witchcraft, tarot cards, palm reading, astrology, summoning spirits, astral projection and all that jazz......it's all real. Any questions?

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Mar 27, 2009, 02:34 AM
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so what exactly are you saying?
And you post to other people texts like "... just like your total lack of intelligence"

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Mar 27, 2009, 03:39 AM
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Indeed. And that is worth more than most of the statements here, including yours !
Of course anyone may believe that magic is real. But if one states that magic is real, one has to be able to prove that, if asked. So far I asked several times, but nobody could provide the proof !
The debate that is occurring is apples versus oranges.

Science is based on logic. Credibility is contingent on written words of proof. This is left-brained stuff, it's like math, lists. Procedures. Got that? Great.

Magic is a right-brained activity. Thinking in images, visualization of the desired outcome, is very difficult to document. Magical journals tell the story however. Recording what a spell was for, when it was done, can be used to record the results, or lack of them as well.

Your attacks sarnian, lead me to believe that the female, right-brained psyche frightens you. But then, I have no proof.
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Mar 27, 2009, 02:57 PM
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There is nothing wrong with my intellect. But there is everything wrong in your argumentation and the support of your invalid statements.
Yet you keep refusing to accept that magic can't be done over the internet and do do it for yourself. You want magic to be like it is on TV. You want me to say some cute nursery rhymes and expect to be a billionaire tomorrow or to fall in love with some super model. Well, you can keep watching TV because that's not how real magic works. You keep asking for proof and yet you won't understand that it CAN'T BE DONE OVER THE INTERNET. Once you accept that then maybe you should do a little reading and try some magic for yourself. After all, they say that the best experiences are your own.
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Mar 27, 2009, 03:00 PM
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Um...
Magic isn't real. Your an idiot, looking for attention. Look somewhere else. The internet has enough crap on it already.
HA! I'm looking for attention? This is coming from the person who randomly adds their two cents on a conversation that had nothing to do with them at all.........yet I'm the one who needs attention. What I don't understand is if you don't believe in magic then you shouldn't have posted anything.
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Mar 27, 2009, 03:02 PM
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The debate that is occurring is apples versus oranges.

Science is based on logic. Credibility is contingent on written words of proof. This is left-brained stuff, it's like math, lists. Procedures. Got that? Great.

Magic is a right-brained activity. Thinking in images, visualization of the desired outcome, is very difficult to document. Magical journals tell the story however. Recording what a spell was for, when it was done, can be used to record the results, or lack of them as well.

Your attacks sarnian, lead me to believe that the female, right-brained psyche frightens you. But then, I have no proof.
Thank you. But no matter what any of us say, Sarnian won't accept it. He seems to think that magic can be proven over the internet. Even if magic did work like it did on TV (like on Charmed or Buffy) and I casted one right now, how would Sarnian know? So still, he wouldn't get his proof. But as "scientific" as his mind is he doesn't understand that. Oh well.
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Mar 27, 2009, 03:13 PM
Hmmm, with out reading anything, I'm going to say, that all depends on what you considre magic, magik, to be?

What you are saying about magic being a casting of a spell, the "like attracting like", is no different from, Preying to GOD/S, Meditation, Self-affrimation, and even the scientifically tested (evidence does suggest that the imagination can effect reality, but it's under investigation.) idea that our very imagination can have direct effect on the body and possibly the environment, though we are not moving at all.

In my understanding, "all are one, and one is all." - Led-Zeppelin Stairway to heaven.
These ideas are the same thing, just different words. "...A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."- Juliet in the Tragity Rommeo + Juliet.

So, whether you call it, divine intervention, slef affirmation, self discovery, magic/ magik, or The power of imagination, it all does the same thing in the end. Brings us closer to our desired goals and intentions, it all does.

Peace and kindness to all.
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Mar 27, 2009, 03:24 PM
Haha, scientific Proof? Can any one in fact prove that I have billions of organismes in my body?

Can any one show me that we are going around the sun? Yes I mean via the internet. And no not by referring me to some usuless journal, or posted theories. I want cold hard evidence in my hand. It's not possible to do is it? You'd have to take me to outer space and show me. Other wise you would have to teach me some hugely long mathamatical calutaion system.

Science is still only subjective, in that it's only true in the moment you test it. Things change.
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Mar 27, 2009, 03:30 PM
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Can any one show me that we are going around the sun? Yes I mean via the internet.
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http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=15528
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Mar 27, 2009, 04:06 PM
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Hmmm, with out reading anything, I'm going to say, that all depends on what you considre magic, magik, to be?

What you are saying about magic being a casting of a spell, the "like attracting like", is no different from, Preying to GOD/S, Meditation, Self-affrimation, and even the scientifically tested (evidence does suggest that the imagination can effect reality, but it's under investigation.) idea that our very imagination can have direct effect on the body and possibly the environment, though we are not moving at all.

In my understanding, "all are one, and one is all." - Led-Zeppelin Stairway to heaven.
These ideas are the same thing, just different words. "...A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."- Juliet in the Tragity Rommeo + Juliet.

So, whether you call it, divine intervention, slef affirmation, self discovery, magic/ magik, or The power of imagination, it all does the same thing in the end. Brings us closer to our desired goals and intentions, it all does.

Peace and kindness to all.

This is exactly what I'm saying. But don't say it too loud in front of scientific people ( I won't say names) they'll just keep asking for PROOF PROOF PROOF. They want you to show them over the internet.
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Mar 27, 2009, 04:40 PM
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This is exactly what I'm saying. But don't say it too loud in front of scientific people ( I won't say names) they'll just keep asking for PROOF PROOF PROOF. They want you to show them over the internet.
I guess you don't believe in gravity then.
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