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    mommy32008 Posts: 6, Reputation: 1
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    Apr 1, 2008, 07:30 PM
    My landline phone doesn't work when online
    Is there something free that I can download that will tell me the calls I'm missing on my landline when online.
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    Apr 1, 2008, 08:17 PM
    Are you using a dial up modem ?
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    Apr 4, 2008, 10:51 AM
    No I'm not using a dial up modem
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    Apr 4, 2008, 11:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mommy32008
    no i'm not using a dial up modem
    If you're not on a dial-up connection, there's no reason why your landline phone wouldn't work while online.
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    Apr 4, 2008, 04:44 PM
    So, it's DSL I presume and when you pick up the phone while online you hear an ocean like sound. True or False?

    Are you using DSL filters? How many? How many phone devices?
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    Apr 7, 2008, 07:21 AM
    I have to unplug my phone to get online and visa virsa so I don't know if there is an ocean sound
    I believe we have one filter on the phone and one might be on the computer but I'm not sure (I don't know a lot about filters or computers) the computer is plugged into a black box that has lights that flash on it and it has power, ethernet, usb, dsl, and internet written on it. Lol guess it's dsl
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    Apr 7, 2008, 07:24 AM
    If you plugged in a phone splitter(allows 2 phones to be plugged into 1 line)then plug phone and computer in, Then If you hear Dialing then you have dial up.
    If it is DSL, A DSL splitter may solve your problem.
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    Apr 7, 2008, 08:42 AM
    So it's DSL. We are getting somewhere.

    Can we assume one phone and one DSL modem?

    No answering machine? No alarm system? No other phones?

    Filters can have 2 jacks or one. Let's assume one for now.
    The filter belongs only on the phone and mot the modem (black box).
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    Apr 7, 2008, 08:54 AM
    Yes it's one phone and one modem no answering machine no alarm system and no other phones
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    Apr 7, 2008, 10:44 AM
    Excelsus Technologies: Products: DSL Filters

    Is the filter like the Z-200SM

    Single-Line DSL Filter

    DSL Filters, Splitters and Phone Accessories Excelsus Technologies: : Z-200SM Single-Line DSL Filter, Wide-Band Performance

    Or

    2 Jacks (Z-320P2J)

    DSL Filters, Splitters and Phone Accessories Excelsus Technologies: : Z-330P2J ANSI Single-Line DSL Filter

    What type of filter(s) and how many?
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    Apr 8, 2008, 07:32 AM
    Hey Kiss, I thought I was only one to hear the sound of DSL on my test set, others say they can't hear it on same test set. Didn't know if they couldn't hear that High?
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    Apr 8, 2008, 08:12 AM
    Well, that's in theory.

    Here is a pic of VOICE/DSL bandwidth

    DSLTutorial - page 29 of 62

    There are multiple modulation schemes and therefore one version of DSL can be better than another.

    But, a transition which would contain an infinate amount of frequencies if it had a slope of infinity, by doing an Fourier transform. So, you may not be able to hear a sine wave frequency of 25 khz, but you will hear something if that wave was square.

    I just did some surfing concering DSL and there really isn't too much about particulars. Probably in a standards document somewhere.

    It seems that when looking at the driver IC available, DSL amplitude is very high (>20 V p-p) compared to telco voice signals. I guess, it has to be because the ringing signal, voice and the DC signals are riding on it. The DSL signal is riding differentially on the pairs as would ring and voice and DTMF and call progress. The DC signals just determine on and off hook. The DSL signal has to have a lot of current drive capability.

    I guess, it could be fun to differentially probe the line with a 100 MHZ scope.
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    Apr 8, 2008, 11:55 AM
    It doesn't look like either of them
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    Apr 8, 2008, 12:12 PM
    Post a picture using "go advanced".

    Does it have any writing on it that you can post?

    Because now I am thoroughly confused. ( coupler maybe?)
    http://www.consumer.philips.com/cata...geFront370.jpg

    The ideal device, should look like:

    http://img.alibaba.com/photo/1103335...d_Splitter.jpg
    With the Phone and ADSL Modem side clearly marked.
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    Apr 8, 2008, 12:43 PM
    mommy32008, can I just call you Mom? Anyway, Can you provide Make and Model of Modem?
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    Apr 8, 2008, 01:13 PM
    Strat:

    Your probably not paying attention. Mommy said:
    Quote Originally Posted by mommy32008
    power, ethernet, usb, dsl, and internet written on it. lol guess it's dsl
    So, it's DSL.

    Do you have other reasons for asking for the model #?
    I can think of some stupid reasons it doesn't work, so I think the key is determining what we think are "filters" might be.
    Couplers and 2 line adapters come to mind.
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    Apr 8, 2008, 01:50 PM
    The splitter should help you avoid unhooking your phone but I think you are want something else in your question. You want to be able to see something pop up on your computertelling you that there is an incoming call, right?
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    Apr 8, 2008, 01:54 PM
    Throwing ideas out there... maybe dialing up while using DSL? I've never tried my DSL without a filter, but I didn't think it would stop ringing entirely... maybe she's online with DSL, but still dialing a backup number, or maybe using an AOL browser and dialing.

    Or maybe I'm wrong and not having a filter WILL make the phone not ring. I guess that probably depends on the phone, too...
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    Apr 8, 2008, 01:59 PM
    I think its likely she is on a plain old dial up modem, on single land line.
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    Apr 8, 2008, 02:16 PM
    Ballenger:

    Your not paying attention either. The modem has a DSL light light on it.
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