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Gay Marriage Ban, Tolerance ?

Asked Dec 2, 2008, 05:31 PM — 71 Answers
Why is a person considered intolerant if they are for the Gay Marriage Ban. Let's take that question a bit farther, why is a person intolerant if they teach their children that being gay is wrong. And in teaching that lesson a parent also says that you do not hate, make fun of or otherwise belittle the person you just feel sorry for them. That you always stick up for your views and not let the liberal left thinking creep into your thought process. Why is someone that does that considered to be intolerant. If that's their belief why are they considered to be bigots, and hate mongers. I really hope someone can answer this because it seems that anything goes today but if you disagree and try to teach your children what you believe to be the right way to live, your perceived by some as intolerant. If you even talk about your views and share them with others your spreading hate. I will check back often as the answers I'm sure will be interesting.

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Feb 4, 2009, 07:36 PM


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Ahhh...but is not abortion a "choice." And that choice could and should be made for LIFE.
Are you implying that homosexual acts are choices?

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Another thing, in my post you are referring to, there is no moralizing about sexual preference.

Even the CDC does not use the term homosexuals or heterosexuals but MSM [men having sex with men ].

And yes statistics are based on facts, not opinions.






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Abortion is a choice. Having unprotected sex is a CHOICE. Whether or not one is a homosexual is NOT a choice.

My statistics were based on facts, too. I was just pointing out that statistics don't mean CRAP, because you can twist them to mean whatever you want.
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Feb 4, 2009, 09:04 PM
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Abortion is a choice. Having unprotected sex is a CHOICE. Whether or not one is a homosexual is NOT a choice.

My statistics were based on facts, too. I was just pointing out that statistics don't mean CRAP, because you can twist them to mean whatever you want.

So statistics from the CDC are crap?


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Feb 5, 2009, 07:39 AM


I'm saying that what people take the statistics to MEAN is crap.

So male-to-male sex is the most common way to pass AIDS--so what? Female-to-Female sex is the LEAST common way to spread AIDS sexually.

HIV/AIDS and Women | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS

So two women should be able to get married before a man and a woman should, by those statistics?

Your statistics are crap because they only say the part you WANT them to say, not the whole story.

Perhaps if male/male relationships were more accepted by society, there would be more openness about homosexual relationships in general, and therefore more stable relationships among homosexuals, rather than clandestine sexual meetings and nothing more, which would cut down on the male-to-male AIDS transmission.

Statistics tell only PART of any story--and usually only the part that the person quoting the statistics wants to say.

Again--I gave you perfectly accurate statistics as well, about abortion. There's not a single abortion out there that was because of a gay marriage. Granted, the CDC is a respected scientific community, but can you really say that my statistics are inaccurate?

So--if my statistics are as accurate as the CDC's, then what does that say about statistics in general?

Basically--what the hell is your point? Should people with AIDS not be allowed to get married? Or just anyone that has had unprotected sex, therefore putting others at risk for any STD?

Or is it just gay men that can't get married, because somehow that thought sickens you, and you're hiding behind the AIDS argument because it's convenient?
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Feb 5, 2009, 07:00 PM
I was originally replying to an assertation that hiv is transmitted via heterosexual sex as easily as it is among homosexual sex.

This is true in subsaharan Africa, not the USA.

I NEVER made risk for hiv or aids a litmus test for marriage.

Maybe you might , but I don't.





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Mar 28, 2009, 05:22 PM
I support civil unions but I think marriage should be between a man and a woman. I have no problem with gay people, I know several of them.
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Mar 28, 2009, 05:59 PM
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Hello again, in:

You're not listening.. I'm telling you what YOUR CONSTITUTION says. I know you don't like it. I don't know why. It is YOUR country, and the laws ain't too bad. The Consitution is pretty cool too.

But, I know you're not interested. That's a shame for an American. Ok. You don't want to know the law. You keep making silly suggestions, that could only have come from your church. I ain't interested in your SILLY stuff. I'm interested in the law. You aren't.

Later.

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That is why I do not like conformed religion they bend everything around a book that man wrote, oh and also I don't like a religion that gives birth to biggots and hypocrites... People who drink and do drugs and cuss like sailors all week long think that one day athe e and of the week makes up for it I know this from experience I watch people that I know... I used to be christian until I found out that most are worse than the non christian people gossipping all the time and back stabbers I would rather be a sinner and a good person that be saved and be horrible
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Mar 28, 2009, 06:18 PM
What the Bible Says - And Doesn't Say - About Homosexuality take a look all christians and curious others please
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Mar 28, 2009, 06:20 PM
Thank you liz I was wondering what kind of response I would get
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Mar 28, 2009, 06:52 PM
Being against gays IS being intorerant because you you are not tolerant of gays. Teaching children that it is wrong to be gay is wrong. People should believe in what they want not what their parents want. If they agree with you go ahead and enforce what they believe, but don't brainwash them into believing what you want them to. I don't know why people who are against gays even care! I can't stand people who protest against people they don't even know that are doing nothing wrong. Why do they care that gays they don't even know are getting married? Just because they they think it's sinful? It's like protesting it front of a house with a couple that cheated on each other. You would be knocking on half of all the world's doors. Why bother?
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Mar 29, 2009, 06:24 AM
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that is why I do not like conformed religion they bend everything around a book that man wrote, oh and also I don't like a religion that gives birth to biggots and hypocrites... People who drink and do drugs and cuss like sailors all week long think that one day athe e and of the week makes up for it I know this from experience I watch people that I know... I used to be christian until I found out that most are worse than the non christian people gossipping all the time and back stabbers I would rather be a sinner and a good person that be saved and be horrible

Kinda oxymoronic there

It is religion that makes someone think they are better than another when they are not.

Are you not doing the same thing?

I have no problem saying I am a sinner, I am not perfect, and never will be in this lifetime.
A true church is basically a sinners anonymous meeting with all declaring dependence, trust, and love for God.

Oh, by the way, that includes sins other than homosexuality.




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