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Old Jun 3, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Just curious about a religion I know nothing about

I have put threads on a different post questioning christian, catholic and atheist beliefs and the how's and why's. I guess it's only fair to include this religion too!! :0

So I guess first off I willsay I have read the FAQ's and several posts. And I am here to tell you this religion seems like a lot of work!!

And I KNOW I couldn't deal with the man in my life being my boss and deciding to put another woman in my bed!!

But it does seem to be a religion that has a much more firm set of rules with little room for questions and doubts of the religion. And I like that.

So I guess the only questions I have are:

How close is the Islam bible to the christian bible? I saw that several names are similar to those in the christian bible.

And how does islam explain the beginning and end? (How we got here and where we go when we die?)

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Old Jun 3, 2008, 11:37 AM   #2  
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Hi Champ,

About the man being the boss thing,it is more to do with role sharing.
For example the husband is responsible financially to look after his family.The woman can work but she is not obliged to share her earnings with the husband,she can keep her own money for herself.She doesnt change her name after marriage and gets to keep the money she receives as "mahr"(a set amount given by the groom to the bride on marriage) or any other money she inherits is hers alone with no obligation on her to spend it on anyone.
She has less financial obligations compared to a man as the woman is the force that builds up lives of the children,by helping them grow up to be the best they can.And by being free of financial responsibility is a huge help for her to focus on the family.

The other woman in bed issue- http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/islam/g...-a-163427.html

We believe that the first human were Adam and then Hawwa(peace be upon them both).And we believe they were believers in the One Almighty who sent all the Prophets and Messengers from Nuh(Noah),Ibrahim(Abraham),Moosa(Moses),Iesa(Jesus ) till Muhammad(peace be upon them all).Some are mentioned in the Quran.

We believe that Books were revealed to them and we believe that Muhammad (pbuh)is the last and final Messenger and Prophet,that the Quran is the final revelation, which includes many lessons similar to the Bibles and the Torah.

Regarding the beginning,we believe that the Almighty created everything and that to Him will be our final return.

Each human and jinn has free will to choose between belief and disbelief.The Quran mentions many verses regarding signs of the Almighty,about how this universe is and how humans are created and how living things live and die etc and asks us how can we not believe after having seen the signs.

We believe that upon death each person is in an intermediate stage (barzakh) and that we will remain there until the final hour comes.That is the time when all things on this earth will perish and everyone will be resurrected.
Then we will be judged by the Most merciful.
What we do in this world will be held accountable on the Day of judgement and each will recieve his due in good or bad.In the end some will be in Heaven while the others in Hell.

And yes Champ,It is a lot of work in that each and everything we do is recorded and we are answerable to all that we do on this earth.To try to do the best we can until our death arrives we try to live as the best a muslim can be.
A muslim is advised to always be ready for death because it is an unknown thing.
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Firm do you believe that it is a burning hell ...where you burn forever and ever?
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Firm do you believe that it is a burning hell ...where you burn forever and ever?

I believe yes some will be in Hell forever.
There are some who will enter Hell and be cleansed of their sins and wrongdoings and still enter Heaven.

The description is of a fire which neither cools nor gives respite, that both Heaven and Hell already exists.

The Religion of Islam - A Description of Hellfire (part 1 of 5): An Introduction
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There are some who will enter Hell and be cleansed of their sins and wrongdoings and still enter Heaven.

Can you give me an example of whom or is that not for you to judge?

With the religion that I was raised in it was either Heaven or Hell no second chances. Believe me they weren't too shy to tell you where they thought you were going.
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There are some who will enter Hell and be cleansed of their sins and wrongdoings and still enter Heaven.

Can you give me an example of whom or is that not for you to judge?

With the religion that I was raised in it was either Heaven or Hell no second chances. Believe me they weren't too shy to tell you where they thought you were going.

For example there are those of us believers who sin and/or transgress Islamic laws.
Believers in Islamic monotheism will enter Heaven by the mercy of Allah,but we cannot guarantee how long we will be in Hell.And because we hurt even when a thorn pricks in this world,we hope not to enter the fire at all and work towards staying as far away from it as possible.

We believe that after the judgement the believers will pass a bridge across Hell in order to enter Heaven.Those of the most pious believers will cross it in the blink of an eye,but those who sin and trangress etc will be slower and some will be scorched/burn by the fire,while the hypocrites will fall into Hell as they pretended to be believers in this world.

It is said the slowest person will crawl across the bridge but he will get to enter Heaven.

As far as I believe we cannot say who will enter Heaven or Hell,but we believe that believers in Islamic monotheism will enter Heaven by the mercy of Allah at some point of time (time as defined not in worldly terms).

Non-believers who have never received the message of Islamic monotheism will be tested as Allah wills on the Day of Judgement and then their fate will be known.

Even the most pious cannot guarantee Heaven because we do not know the future and we cannot say in what state we may die in,belief or disbelief and it is upto to each of us to try to stay on the right path and meet death as believers.

Hope that wasnt too confusing.
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bushg agrees: Not confusing at all, you explain youself very well and go the extra mile to give info regardless of the subject but esp with your faith:)
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Okay, so islamic faith kind follows a similar line as christian. Although obviously christian faith has some serious forks and potholes in it's road that branch off to dirt roads that have unmarked dead ends. Now I I don't reallly know all of the things associated with this particular religion, but I do like that it seems to be a lot more firm about the do's and don't's.

I am glad you cleared up the boss thing. Although I still wouldn't like sharing my husband with another woman my reltionship now is kind of like that with money. I take care of the kids and I have my own money but I know that spending it foolishly is not in the best interest of my family. But he doesn't tell me what to do with it. He feels basically the same way I do about religion. Although his views are a little more neanderthalish!!

But all the same I am glad that I first misconceptions of this religion are cleared up. Women do get just a s much respect as any other way of life they probably in fact get more with the covering the body up thing. Since that way your body isn't used as a show peice for disrespectful men.

I do have an odd question though.. is pornography allowed in this religion?
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Champ,
Islam is against pornography.
Islam Question and Answer - How can I advise someone who is addicted to pornography?

Married Couple Watching Pornography - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar

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Islam Question and Answer - He has the habit of looking at nude pictures

Champ, Muslims believe Islam to be the monotheism preached by all messengers and Prophets since beginning of mankind.
Muslims believe that Jesus (alaihi salaam) was a muslim in that he submitted to the One Almighty and was sent into this world to spread the word of the One Almighty.
We do not believe Jesus(alaihi salaam) was the son of God or divine in anyway.And we do not believe in the trinity,just that there is One Almighty with no partners or sons or daughters or wives.


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"bushg agrees: Not confusing at all, you explain youself very well and go the extra mile to give info regardless of the subject but esp with your faith"

Thank you G.
I try to help as much as I can.
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Okay, so I can see why you wouldn't believe in Jesus being "divine" or in the "trinity".

And I can see why Islam doesn't allow porn, but ... bare with me....

If you can't look at women, look at porn and you can't masturbate and you don't practice any kind of like war stuff... how do you relieve all that hormone stress!!!
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Okay, so I can see why you wouldn't believe in Jesus being "divine" or in the "trinity".

And I can see why Islam doesn't allow porn, but ... bare with me....

If you can't look at women, look at porn and you can't masturbate and you don't practice any kind of like war stuff... how do you relieve all that hormone stress!!!


Champ,
I am not sure what you meant by "war stuff"?

Away From Wife, How to Control Sexual Desire? - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar
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