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Old Jun 4, 2007, 08:11 AM
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The Cross, The Cresent, The Star Of David

These three religions are very simular, in that they worship the same god. They all may have different ways of worshiping the same higher being, but they all agree that is something beyond human understanding that governs life.

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Old Aug 4, 2007, 02:41 PM   #11  
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Jesus was a prophet of God not God in the flesh. That is where many Christians and Islam go their seperate ways. As I said before some Christians believe the way Islam does that Jesus was a prophet.

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Dreamer10 agrees: Yep. Also, did you know that some Christians believe that it is okay for women to have birth control nowl? So beliefs change. A lot of Christians I know believe Jesus is a Prophet.
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 02:48 PM   #12  
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Jesus was a prophet of God not God in the flesh. That is where many Christians and Islam go their seperate ways. As I said before some Christians believe the way Islam does that Jesus was a prophet.

Could you elaborate on this point, like which christians believe this?
Just asking for information only to know and understand as a muslim we believe the whole universe was created by Only One God and that all the messengers and prophets were sent by One God (i.e. to say we muslims believe Abraham,Noah,Moses,Jesus,Muhammad peace be upon them all were sent by One and Only God).

thanks in advance!
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:07 PM   #13  
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I am Christian and I do not believe that God is Jesus. I believe God sent Jesus. Most Christian now a days also agree that Jesus is a man.
I believe it is more inspirational this way. Also, I don't believe God would have sexual intercourse with Mary. She belonged to Joseph. God is not a "man". He is nor female or male.

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firmbeliever agrees: That God is neither Male nor female and He never begot a son or a daughter and He is not human in anyway!
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:26 PM   #14  
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I am sorry one can not be a Christian really and not beleive Mary was a Virgin, it is specific in the bible, not a matter of question, even the Muslim beleive Mary was a virgin, since it is in thier writing also.

So if you don't beleve Mary was a virgin, then you are not a christian , period....... and it was not God having sex, it was God declaring her to have a child. He created the world, he can create a child without sex.

So no dreamer you are not a christian, you may accept some christian beliefs, but unless you accept the bible you are not a christian.

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ordinaryguy disagrees: Sows discord, makes much of differences, denigrates others, displays spiritual pride.
charliepia agrees: Truth is truth. Whether is causes division or not.
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:33 PM   #15  
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I also agree with this post, in the fact that the three major religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are very similar. All three believe in Adam and Eve, David, Goliath, Angel of Death, Moses, Jonah, John, Isaac, Daniel, Mariam, Abraham and so on and on and on, etc. The similarities are vast when you look into it. Of course there are some differences, but the basic ten commandments that help us stay well natured (if followed) are the same. The trouble is a lot of people do not follow them…and social environments play a big part in how religions are interpreted. I guess that’s why there are different sects of Christianity or Islam or Judaism.
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I am sorry one can not be a Christian really and not beleive Mary was a Virgin, it is specific in the bible, not a matter of question, even the Muslim beleive Mary was a virgin, since it is in thier writing also.

So if you don't beleve Mary was a virgin, then you are not a christian , period....... and it was not God having sex, it was God declaring her to have a child. He created the world, he can create a child without sex.

So no dreamer you are not a christian, you may accept some christian beliefs, but unless you accept the bible you are not a christian.


Fr_Chuck I also believe that Mary was a Virgin, I just don't believe that God had sexual intercourse with her. He created a miracle, but it doesn't mean that he injected sperm into her. That's all so we both think Mary was a Virgin.

Do not tell me I am not Christian. You are not God to tell me this... You know, once upon a time I think there were people shouting at blacks and saying that they were not Christian due to their skin color. So please be more open-minded.

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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:48 PM   #17  
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Friar, I also notice that you try very hard to make sure no one thinks that Muslims are like Jews/Christians...but you know Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah like Christians....why did you not mention this?
By declaring that they probably worship a Moon God...you have shown your true colors. You are talking about some theory, just as it is theory that Christians borrowed Jesus from Pagan Gods....would you like it if everyone said "No, Christians believe some planet was God because they are Pagans". This is the logic you have provided with the Muslim religion by trying to make people think they worship the moon...but now I have exposed what you are manipulatively doing (I hope it is not on purpose). Imagine if the tables were turned to create false beliefs about Christians...based on all those theories that Jesus was just a Pagan God or someone borrowed by idol worshiping religions?. So shame on you.
Shame on you for your propaganda. There is no Muslim on Earth today that has ever said "I worship a moon God".
Friar...please do not try to seperate people with such misleading claims. Oh, and Muslims do believe that Adam was a sinner too. Most Christians I know think it is all Eve's fault for eating the apple. But these differences shouldn't even be focused on...think about all the great things we have in common in the 3 major religions. Friar, there is nothing wrong with celebrating our wonderful similarities...it is wrong to try and get people to think that Muslims are Moon worshipers...just as it would be wrong to make people think that Christians worship the God of Witches or Pagan Religions.

I also noticed that you say it's fascinating that Muslims believe in Jesus as someone without sin...and then you add cleverly "especially because their own Prophet was a sinner". Again I will show how you are being manipulative. Notice that you do not mention that Christians also believe that Jesus is the only one without sin in the holy males mentioned in the bible...so why can't Muslims believe the same thing?

You just wanted to get into people's heads "the Muslim's leader was a sinner" as another attempt to sneakingly be negative towards the group. I hope you have not done these things on purpose Friar. You know yourself that many (or all?) prophets had sinned.
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 11:50 PM   #18  
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It also states in the Holy Quor'an that Mary was a virgin. So yes the followers of Islam believe that as well as Christians.

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Old Aug 5, 2007, 06:50 PM   #19  
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I have some respect for other cultures Fr. chuck, I am chirstian and I have muslim friends. Including a pretty young lady, god/allah molded a fine piece of living artwork.

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Dreamer10 agrees: I also have two Muslim friends, and have learned that their beliefs are pretty much just like Christian beliefs.
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Old Aug 5, 2007, 07:41 PM   #20  
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Islam does deny Jesus, it relegates him to being a Prophet of lesser status than Mudhatmad. Show me the miracles Mudhutmad did, You cannot, show me where the Koran says Mudhutmad is coming again you cannot, and yet Muslims believe Jesus will come again. How confused can you be? Jesus proclaimed himself to be God, not once but many times and yet you don't believe in him. Don't tell me the Islamic God is the same as the Christian God. It is an untruth, a deception. Be honest about your belief

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Dreamer10 disagrees: Christains & Muslims believe in the same God! But Muslims don't believe God came down in the form of Jesus. This doesn't mean "they don't believe in the same God" because God existed outiside of Jesus, no? By your logic, then Jews are Godless. "?"
charliepia agrees: Jesus is God. Jesus said "he who has the Son has life and he who does not shall not see life but God's wrath abides on him" The muslim God is not Jesus Christ.
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