K i go to a boarding school which has a proxy server
it has surf control, doesn't allow MSN or any Music Downloader
and it also wont let me play my Online game(Star Wars Galaxies)

what can i do to get around this and be able to do these thing?

please reply or e-mail me

ScottGem

Nothing, if you don't want to get kicked out of the school. Even if you don't care about that, there is probablly nothing you can do. It would be unethical of anyone to help you get past the school's restrictions, even if you could.

CooperB

K i wont get expelled for doing this people have tried so many times... The IT guys just call check mate and fix it.... and unethical o come on this is a school that says you can't have MSN cause it will distract you from academics, but thanks anyways im gonna still try

ScottGem

Ethics apply at school as well. And you need to learn that NOW! Most boarding schools have an honor system that is usually taken seriously. The fact of the matter is the school has rules. If you try to break those rules you are subject to discipline. That's the way life works. Not all rules may make sense or even be good rules. If you think rules are unfair then work thru the system to change them. To break them is unethical behavior. If you care that little about honesty and fair play, I feel sorry for you.

But you will not get help here.

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CooperB

I see where your coming from, but I don't see why it is that big of a deal. If your really heart set on keeping rules then I think you relize wanting to use MSN, or play SWG is not the biggest deal in perspective of rule breaking. And main while I think the school its self has a bit of unethical behavior. The school has school has class 6 days a week. And it says becuase we have shortter days (We end at 1:00), but technically the Fine Arts and Sports we do after 1:00 (which goes 'till 6:00) counts towards the hours a School needs as Requirements. So the Sat. class's are to Control the student body. And keep in mind this isn't suppost to be a strick school, Its not one of the ones bad kids get sent to, All the students choose to go there (as do I). Yes, you might think You chose to go so you should be comlpaining, well thats the other unethical part. The school masked the other system while I toured the school, the said the Internet didn't have restictions, They said after 6 weeks I get my Saturdays Back to get a week off (Wrong they only counted the 7:30-1:00 hours so I get more like 4 days off) This school abuses it power in every way. By The Way it is still a boarding School, so change the rules? These types of school are so arrogant about their system that they hate change. The school is still very old fashion.

ScottGem

That's not the point! It doesn't matter whether YOU think it not a big deal or not. The school apparently does. They don't want to spend bandwidth on frivoulous pursuits. They want to use it for the business purposes or academic research. Depending on how their Internet access and network is configured, it could cost them more money for bandwidth or your playing games could slow down someone researching a term paper or someone else do the business of the school. There is also the danger of letting some worm or virus or other malware into the system.

If you don't lioke the school, if you think they misrepresented the facilities, have your parents complain or transfer.

CooperB

ok the school doesn't put restictions becuase finactial problem at the least. The schools is getting more money than it know to do with. And knowing the school has about 100 computers alone with internet, and then probably another 4 in each of the 5 dorm houses, and about 75-80% of the 500 students all with computers. I don't think one of those computers on MSN is going to effect the whole system.
And about complaining, that will get me no where expect all the teacher to not like me, and for transfer i don't think thats an option, as much as I chose to go to this school, I think I'm stuck in it for now. I'm in Grade 11 by the way.

ScottGem

Do you have access to the school's financial records? Do you see their their P&Ls? Unless you have seen them, you don't know what their financial position. Very few schools make a huge amount of money. Even prestigious prep schools. Generally schools are run for education with the financial emphasis paying the bills and not on making a large profit.

Sure, one computer on MSN isn't going to make a big difference in bandwidth. But if they removed the restrictions do you really think it would only be you doing it? The restrictions are there to prevent any overuse.

I have to say it, but you sound like a typical 11th grader, selfish and self-centered. Your concerned only about your own interests and convenience with no concern for others.

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CooperB

No i haven't seen an proof of their financail possition, but with the money that they get from the student is ridiculious. without getting into detail they definitly use all their ablility to get the most amount of money from their students as they can, they abuse the "charge it to your parent" power (so basically student don't pay they just sign and thats that, they never see the other end of the bill) therefore the student loose the consept of money and tend to spent more and more often cause to them its just signing a piece of paper! That to me is a form of taking advantage of their power.

Yes I do agree that the school doesn't need a Overuse of MSN, but I think their is a medium that can me met, the school doesn't seem to think the same way. So if the school doesn't change well I had to try to take care of it myself, but as you can see its not going over too well.

Self Centered! Are you kinding me, ok steal or doing something morally wrong is one thing, but it is not self centered just wanting to play a video game. And second me of all 11th graders am probably the least Selfish, I can't prove that of course, but look I did just go on about for I think the school abuses the power of charging to their parent who actually have to come up with the money.

ScottGem

Again you don't know their financial position. A company may be raking in money hand over fist, but their expenses might be very high so their profit may be low or non-existent. Most schools run very close to the vest. Most of any profit they make (if they do) is plowed back into the school. Running a school has a very high overhead. You may think their methods as taking advantage, but unless you know what their overhead is and how much profit they actually make you really can't complain.

No I'm not kidding you. Your first paragraph is just another example of your being self centered. Instead of stopping to consider the other side (what it costs to run the school), you are looking only at what you (or your parents) spend). That's being self centered. This whole thing has been about what YOU want. Even when I've tried to show your that there are other viewpoints that you have to consider, you ignore that, focusing only on what you want and what you know. That's self centered. Buyt like I said, that's typical for an 11th grader.

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