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    Asked Jun 1, 2007, 07:52 PM 25 Answers
    How do I go about reporting a person as illegal in this country??

    I know a Brazilian who came to the US 3 years ago. His passport has since expired at the end of April. He has been to court for small possession charges, but he has gotten a lawyer to get the charges dismissed. I would like to find out how to start the process of getting immigration involved in this matter. Where I live, in NJ, there is an apartment complex that is FILLED with Brazilians. To my understanding, the only way immigration can come into the home is when they are called by someone to start an investigation. How do I make this process start? If someone can PLEASE email me @ school_bound@yahoo.com...

    Ps... to the person who replied to my last?? thank you, and please, email me. I'd like to talk with you some more.. please.. thank you...


    Brenda

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    Jun 1, 2007, 08:06 PM


    You can report them to Immigration services directly, or to the ICE inforcement.

    But the fact there are 12 million or more, normally there is little done, even local jails merely release illegals normally since immigration won't even come get them. And of course depending where they are illegal from, many are back after a few weeks anyway.

    The trouble is there is no one really stoping them from coming in, so as long as the gate is open they will keep coming.
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    Jun 1, 2007, 08:27 PM


    Sorry I went to merge your two posts together, and seem to have lost your other post, sorry.

    Please do not start a new thread in response to your original post, others reading it, can not follow what is being talked about,

    Merely answer back on your original post.

    But here is the contact info for ICE, actually Immigration services does not even want reports, they want ICE to be notified instead

    Report Suspicious Activity:
    1-866-DHS-2-ICE
    1-866-347-2423
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    Jun 1, 2007, 08:31 PM
    So even if I call them, they aren't guaranteed to come out and take them?? Is it true they need a warrant for them in order to come and get them??
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    Jun 3, 2007, 08:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BRENDABEASON
    how do i go about reporting a person as illegal in this country??? brenda
    I certainly understand your concern and I, too, have the desire to have all the illegals around me deported but I'm afraid that our government is pro-illegal immigration and that the problem is just going to get worse, not better. Ronald Reagan's solution to the illegal alien problem was to "legalize" them. His premise was that the problem would be solved by legalizing the illegals rather than deporting them. Bush and most of Congress seem to agree. Reagan's solution did not work but made the problem bigger. We're on the cusp of legalizing nearly 20 million more criminals (or more). If they came here illegally, then they were criminals the moment they set foot over the border. I guess the politicians feel that if they white-wash the criminal activities at the border then maybe someone will white-wash all the criminal activities in Washington D.C.
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    Jun 3, 2007, 08:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BRENDABEASON
    so even if i call them, they aren't guaranteed to come out and take them??? is it true they need a warrant for them in order to come and get them???
    Hello BRENDA:

    I don't know why you are so intent on screwing over this individual. I mean, you didn't say he's a bank robber, and he's not even been convicted on the possession charge.

    Snitching on people, especially people who are only trying to better their lives, is a pretty lousy thing to do.

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    Jun 3, 2007, 09:10 AM
    Reporting illegals - what do you get out of that? I have changed my whole attitude on illegal immigration. Not that I encourage it, but no one can solve this situation anymore. If the people coming are criminals there, they will show themselves as criminals here. That is my theory. Cannot tell you how many illegals are caught here, not because of them being illegal, but because of their criminal activities. Then it is found out that they are here illegally.

    I do believe most come seeking a better way of life. That most want better things for themselves and their families. However, you notice that it is the poorest of the poor coming across, then mix in the drug dealers and assorted criminals. It is not the wealthy coming, generally speaking.

    But report this person. Maybe you will get lucky.
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    Jun 3, 2007, 09:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Hello BRENDA: I dunno why you are so intent on screwing over this individual. I mean, you didn't say he's a bank robber, and he's not even been convicted on the possession charge. Snitching on people, especially people who are only trying to better their lives, is a pretty lousy thing to do. excon
    So where do you draw the line on what is "snitchable" activity and which is not? Some crimes are acceptable and some aren't? Being here illegally and dealing with drugs (2 crimes) is acceptable but robbing a bank is not? How about petty theft & defacing someone's property, would those two crimes combined be a snitchable offense or should someone be allowed to get away with those crimes but go to jail for shop lifting? Should you, Mr. Excon, be the judge of what is right and wrong or should your next door neighbor's opinion stand as the rule of law? We have laws in this country and all of us our bound to obey them or face the consequences. Mr. Brazil has broken two laws (that we know of) and should pay the penalty. If he shouldn't pay the penalty for these two crimes (as you assert) then why should any of us pay the price for any criminal activity? Let's just move towards total anarchy and chaos.
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    Jun 3, 2007, 09:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by shygrneyzs
    I do believe most come seeking a better way of life. That most want better things for themselves and their families. However, you notice that it is the poorest of the poor coming across, then mix in the drug dealers and assorted criminals. It is not the wealthy coming, generally speaking.
    As millions come here "seeking a better way of life" (instead of improving their lives in their own country) the rest of our lives become a worse way of life. We have to listen to ultra loud mariachi music; we have to try to communicate with people who can't speak a lick of English; we have to press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish; we have to wade through sea of illegals when we go to the emergency room; we have to try to find ways to defend our immune systems from the antibiotic-resistant strains of diseases they're bringing with them to this land; our professionals have to compete with Mexicans who will do the job for much less (roofers, framers, truck drivers, masons, etc.); our children have to wear bullet proof vests when they go to public school; American taxpayers have to cover for the illegals who don't pay taxes; statistics prove that illegals have brought a culture of crime and a disregard for American laws. The list is much longer. Remember the Alamo!
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    Jun 3, 2007, 09:35 AM


    But to answer your question, no, most likely if this person is not a drug dealer or a gang member or some real danger to the community, no they will not come get him. We have cases in Nashville where illegals have been arrests 3 or 4 times and just released on bail or released after they serve their time. Many have had several DUI, and it was not till someone was killed by the DUI driver that immigration even got involved.

    Not wanting to sound like sterotyping, but we all know or see the groups of illegals that hang around certain places, like in Atlanta, there are normally 10 to 20 around Home Depo, that are waiting for someone to come by and hire them. Why they may work for 40 dollars for the entire day instead of hiring a carpenter for 10 bucks a hour.

    So immigration could pick up 100's a day in every major city if they wanted to. Police in every town know where they are at. But the Federal Government even resticts the local police from even doing anything about it. Nashville has just recently asked permission from the Federal Government to inforce immigration by the local police.

    So with that you may have lets say 20 immigration officers in a large city to do inforcement, so they go out and get 10 illegals, with that, then they spend the next day or two doing the paper work, and when those illegals go to their hearings, they have to spend a day or two in hearings
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