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Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:36 AM
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Who made these comments about the president while his country was at war?

The war is "a wanton outrage upon the Constitution"; "the president's policies (have been) incredible, mendacious, ruinous, mischievous, disgraceful, dishonorable, reckless, and infamous." And, the president, "...waging war against the Constitution, was a free people's greatest enemy."

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 12:06 PM   #21  
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And on January 12, 1848 Lincoln spoke in Congress about the war....
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General Grant does not sound like a Jacksonian Democrat in those remarks. "Jackson symbolized the new attitudes of equality in a number of ways; he was the first president who was not a Virginian or an Adams, and he was a pioneer, an American Indian fighter, and a war hero." The Free Dictionary Jacksonian Democrat - Hutchinson encyclopedia article about Jacksonian Democrat

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HistorianChick agrees: No, he does not. But, I guess that's what Personal Memoirs are for, eh?? :)
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Lincoln was in Congress at that time? You are very warm, HC. Just curious: what was Lincoln's view of the war?
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Lincoln was against the war because President Polk could only stretch the truth and squeeze rationalization out of half-truths and misconceptions. Actively protesting the war, in his address to Congress he said, "The result of this examination was to make the impression, that taking for true, all the President states as facts, he falls far short of proving his justification; and that the President would have gone farther with his proof, if it had not been for the small matter, that the truth would not permit him."

Basically, if you can't provide proof, don't request military action. And, the reason for the Constitution giving the power of war to Congress was to keep a tyrannical "king" from throwing the country into a war for their own whims. He believed that Polk was acting as a King rather than a President.
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So, perhaps it was someone in Representative Lincoln's party?
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You're wicked, you know that??? lol
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Lincoln was against the war because President Polk could only stretch the truth and squeeze rationalization out of half-truths and misconceptions...

Basically, if you can't provide proof, don't request military action. And, the reason for the Constitution giving the power of war to Congress was to keep a tyrannical "king" from throwing the country into a war for their own whims. He believed that Polk was acting as a King rather than a President.
Good work, here, HC; can you imagine arguing with Lincoln? What if he were your father? From what I recall, however, he spoiled his children terribly.
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You're wicked, you know that??? lol
I consider that a compliment!
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Good work, here, HC; can you imagine arguing with Lincoln? What if he were your father? From what I recall, however, he spoiled his children terribly.

And this is quite a compliment, too!

Yes... arguing with Lincoln would not be fun at all...

I'm still searching, but wow... you have seriously stumped me!
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Let's say the mystery man is a member of Lincoln's party and he is from Georgia; and probably no friend of Lincoln. He made a name for himself in the Confederate States of America.
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